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Post by JR on Jul 27, 2013 18:07:44 GMT -5
Sounds like there is a cable release that needs adjusting for the seat. Rapidjim here will be very familiar with that scooter, he sells ice bears.
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Post by triker on Jul 27, 2013 18:48:30 GMT -5
If yours is like mine the cable does not have an adjustment. The cable is only 6-8 inches long. Does it help if you push down on the seat while turning the key? Have you tried to lock it and unlock it with the seat up? remove the seat bucket so you can see the latch. then using a screwdriver trip the spring loaded latch to the locked position then try to unlock it. This will give you a better idea of why it doesn't work. I had to bend the fork where the cable hooks int just a little bit. You may also be able to loosen the latch bolts.and slide it a little bit to tighten the cable.
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Post by crawdad on Jul 27, 2013 22:29:24 GMT -5
[replyingto=triker]triker[/replyingto]Hey triker- So far I have followed the advice from the dealer.One said turn the key to the left and smack the seat. What I have tried is the following.Turned the key to many places counter clockwise as advised.Nothing worked. My neighbor came over and turned the key lightly turned the key and up popped the seat I have tried it dozens of times and only a couple of times has it opened.
I have removed some of the plastic around the top rear ,but no help there
for the removal of the tub.There seem to be a lot of wires attached to the underside of the tub .I have only felt them like a cable attached on the right hand side.I need to get the tub out if possible so I can have access to change vac tubing and gas line. If the tub doesn't come out I don't want to waste a lot of time for nothing.I contacted Ice Bear and got a similar answer .Turn key to left and smack the seat.They did say that they get a lot of calls regarding this lock. Any other advice regarding either of my problems ,sure will be helpful.
Getting back to the lock ,is this switch worked with electricity?The reason I asked is that I haven't put the battery in the scoot as yet.
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Post by triker on Jul 28, 2013 0:29:14 GMT -5
Is the seat release in the ignition lock? If it is it is probably like the one in the magnum. If it is in the ignition you just need to turn the key to the left, do not push in while turning. If the seat latch lock is also the ignition switch the adjustment should be at the lock and probably not real easy to get to. The Ice Bear site don't have a parts diagram for that model up yet so I couldn't see what it is like.
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Post by crawdad on Jul 28, 2013 15:03:26 GMT -5
[replyingto=triker]triker[/replyingto]Hi Triker - Thanks for the advice.I will try to explain what I have here,but I am not too good on this particular problem. There are TWO spots at the ignition. ONE opens the key hole ,security I would guess. The other one is the key hole There is start at top next on left side is OFF and then below that wording ,there is ,then small arrow pointing down to left side,then there is the word OPEN and the word push.Below that wording is the word LOCK.I would send a picture but I don't know how to do that process. I am not too good on this computer! I just went out and tried again and still nothing. Also as I can't get the darned seat and bucket off the scoot as there are only two bolts on the front end and NO other bolts or such that can be removed.I have taken some of the rear trim off ,but again no bolts or such in that area. Boy I am really stuck with this one!! I appreciate you time triker .   |
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Post by triker on Jul 28, 2013 17:58:08 GMT -5
Ok I some trouble getting these photo's. My desk top computers got fried with a voltage spike. so I'm on a laptop. the problem was the cannon camera I have doesn't have drivers compatible with vista. So I went a different rout. I tried using my new sony action cam. But anyway her is a couple of photo' of the magnum ignition.   The hole to the right is a security feature you use the end of the key with two tabs. When you insert the key and turn, a plate covers the ignition key slot. The second photo shows the back of the lock and I have pointed out the seat latch cable. You can't see the adjustment but it is at the end of the bent metal tube about 3 inches down. Roy |
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Post by DaveC on Jul 28, 2013 19:50:03 GMT -5
Verne
Sorry I was of no help
If i were home, i'd take some pics
But Colo Springs is keeping me busy
Went to the batting cages today
1st time in 37 years i hit a softball
And seeing the looks on everyone elses face watching me was hilarious.
(with my prosthetic leg)
Good luck
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Post by crawdad on Jul 28, 2013 22:09:28 GMT -5
[replyingto=triker]triker[/replyingto]Hi Roy ! Boy it has been a long day but ,good news is here. I took you advice and first I removed some plastic and metal parts from the rear .With that done ,I was able to see through a slot in the rear plate a small bit of cable and some fittings. I stuck a screw driver in the space and wiggled it around,there was a click and the seat opened .I know I will have to either tighten or loosen the cable .At which end ? And will I tighten or loosen ? Also I went a little further and removed the two bolts holding the hinge end of the lid ,and two more bolts ,one at each side about one third of the way from the back.With that dine the tub came loose . Boy! what a job. I sure would hate to do this operation on a regular basis Now all I have to do is replace vac and gas hose ,which is somewhat buried and I found the fuel filter ,away down on the right side and it too is kind of buried. The gas tank is up front somewhere inside the steering post area .Has a long gas line to the carb . All lines are the same color so It will be a experience making the change. Got the plug replaced .It too is kind of buried. I think the last thing I will be looking for is where is the differential gear drain and refill.Info on this type of requirement is vague .Show picts of three rear ends ,but no marking as to where the drain is and no mention of service (meaning fill or drain ) Well anyway Roy I want to thank you for your suggestions and advice.It made my job a lot easier . It gives a man a good feeling to know that there are people like you that I can get the help needed . In this case there are no one in Salem that will work on Chinese scooters .Their claim is they can't get parts! Anyway Roy,   thanks again,if I can ever help Give me a call. |
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Post by crawdad on Jul 28, 2013 22:17:17 GMT -5
Hi guys! I sure could use some advice on my new 3 wheeler . It is a50cc one wheel in front .From Ice bear .called Q 6 One of the problems is that to open the seat,you have to put your ignition key in a certain spot ,problem is that sometimes it works and most of the time not.Directions say move to counter clock spot and click.Doesn't work most of the time. My second problem is, I want to remove the the seat box ,to get at the motor and it does not seem to be removable. Any advice will be appreciated . Thanks i advance ! I want to thank all that gave me advice to get my scooter working . The advice and suggestions were all good ,it took this old man a few days to get the work done All I have to do now is bolt on the trunk and windshield ,,change the vac and gas lines and install one fender.Boy ,they are a @@###& to bolt on without help Tried my wife but no patience ! Will go at it again tomorrow. |
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Post by triker on Jul 28, 2013 23:52:22 GMT -5
You are welcome. If you think that one is a pain to get the seat bucket out you should try it on a 2010 magnum.  Glad I could help. Roy |
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Post by crawdad on Aug 5, 2013 11:41:14 GMT -5
To complete the problem of the automatic catch to unlock the seat,I found that there was no practical way of fixing the problem .To fix properly I would have to get a new complete unit and remove a lot of plastic to reinstall. My decision after a conversation with Ally , was to cut the cable and install a manual pull cable which seems to work very well . Thanks guys, this has been a interesting post.  |
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