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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:09:40 GMT -5
I'm having a issue the scooter does not run anymore. I hold the brake and push the starter and nothing... Anything please tell me the starter is not fried...  I just replaced the spark plug also with a brand new NIko. I checked the 20 A fuse its fine. |
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Post by ltdhpp on Jul 14, 2013 17:16:12 GMT -5
It could be the battery, starter solenoid, starter, start button, brake light switch, or any of the wiring in between any of those parts.
Got a test light?
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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:25:12 GMT -5
I am getting nothing no noise nothing turning over. I just replaced the spark plug and coil looks fine...
Not the battery its fully charged, Stator is fine, Regulator is fine.
I checked the 20A fuse its fine in the start relay solenoid.
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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:29:08 GMT -5
That only leaves me the starter motor right next to the back tire which is a pain in the MONKEY BUTT TO GET OUT...
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Post by ltdhpp on Jul 14, 2013 17:33:47 GMT -5
No, that still leaves the solenoid, the starter, the start button, the brake switch, and all the wiring in between.
Spark plug, coil, stator/regulator have nothing to do with cranking.
First thing I would do is probe the small terminal on the solenoid to see if it gets juice when you try to start it.
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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:34:13 GMT -5
I took the 20A fuse out of the starter relay solenoid and everything shuts off its dead and put it back in and everything works. That must confirm that the starter solenoid relay works I guess?
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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:36:10 GMT -5
No, that still leaves the solenoid, the starter, the start button, the brake switch, and all the wiring in between. Spark plug, coil, stator/regulator have nothing to do with cranking. First thing I would do is probe the small terminal on the solenoid to see if it gets juice when you try to start it. Ok I will check those tomorrow. Thanks |
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Post by ltdhpp on Jul 14, 2013 17:46:37 GMT -5
That sounds like a main fuse for the scooter - it's located 'in' the starter solenoid/relay? Neat... since you can access the solenoid, you can try to 'jump' it by bridging the small terminal and the fat terminal from the hot side (the side going to the battery). This will bypass the key, start button and brake switch. If the solenoid works, it should crank.
You can also use a thick pair of needle nose pliers to bridge the two fat terminals - but only for long enough to see if it cranks. This will 'bypass' the solenoid itself.
Also, if you can get to it, try smacking the starter body with a screwdriver handle or other blunt object, this can sometimes bring a dying motor back to life for a few more starts.
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Post by ridecheap on Jul 14, 2013 17:57:27 GMT -5
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Post by ltdhpp on Jul 14, 2013 18:10:14 GMT -5
That's a cool looking solenoid... It probably feeds power to the rest of the bike from there. The cheaper solenoids are different and have an exposed small terminal (or 1 or 2 single wires going in) for the crank signal, but you'd have to figure out what wire that is for yours, so you're right, its probably not a good idea to go jumping things blindly.
You could still try bridging the two fat posts with something thick, that won't hurt anything, except maybe your hand if it gets hot and burns you!
If you can pop your start button out and see the wire colors, it would hopefully be the same at the solenoid so you know which one to probe.
Sounds like you already checked the battery, but I had my negative wire come loose on mine once - it made a good enough connection to turn the scooter on, but no dice when you tried to crank it.
I like your Roketa btw... something like that is what I plan to buy next!!!
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Post by festus on Jul 14, 2013 21:23:49 GMT -5
So far I didn't see where anyone mentioned the side stand safety switch which would cause the symptom you describe.
You can check the coil of the solenoid by removing one of the control (small) wires and read across the two connections. You should get a reading (continuity)
When everything is working as it should you would get 12 volts to the coil of the solenoid when pressing the start switch. You have 12 volts to one of the larger connections all the time. The solenoid simply connects the two larger wires while you hold the button down. So don't be too concerned about jumping them out for one second as a test. BUT if you do that, touch the wire you use to jump it to the nuts not the threads. You can get a pretty good arc which could damage the threads.
Good luck!
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Post by ltdhpp on Jul 14, 2013 21:27:34 GMT -5
ooooohhh yeah... I'd have to get rid of that real quick if I had a side stand switch... lol
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jul 15, 2013 10:36:17 GMT -5
Did you try both brake handles to start scoot?
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jul 15, 2013 10:38:26 GMT -5
Could be a bad brake switch. Attachments:
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Post by ridecheap on Aug 9, 2013 14:55:03 GMT -5
Hit the starter motor today with a hammer and it starts up every 15th try. Only time it fires up on cue is when I roll it first then push the starter any ideas?  |
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