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Post by philgood on Apr 13, 2013 18:45:48 GMT -5
Greetings all. My son bought a Sunny DF105TKB. It is a reverse trike. The problems that he has had with the online dealer and the bike itself are too numerous to go into, but Im wondering if anyone else here has one of these and can help me with some issues. If so, please holler at me here or at my email.
I myself ride a Suzuki Boulevard.
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Post by DaveC on Apr 13, 2013 20:04:33 GMT -5
I don't/haven't.
But I have read many threads here about the alignment and other issues.
Try to use the search feature or Google it.
Plenty of people talking about RT issues
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 13, 2013 20:12:26 GMT -5
Phil,
What is the problem with the Trike, beside the front they are the same as any other scoot.
And yes many have had trouble with the front end and lots of Shimmy. They have to be aligned just right or they will shimmy and or pull to one side or the other.
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Post by domindart on Apr 13, 2013 23:15:02 GMT -5
welcome to the site. Good luck w the trike, very knowledgable and willing to help people here..  |
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Post by mrpalmetto on Apr 18, 2013 11:44:04 GMT -5
Alleyoop,
Could you point me in the direction to help me get the shimmy out or my front end of my 150TKB reverse trike? Like where are the posts on this forum?
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 18, 2013 14:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by new2scootn on Apr 18, 2013 16:30:10 GMT -5
Alleyoop, Could you point me in the direction to help me get the shimmy out or my front end of my 150TKB reverse trike? Like where are the posts on this forum? You absolutely MUST start by making sure the tires are not out of round and balancing ALL of the the wheels. As far as alignment you cannot align a tilting reverse trike(RT) like you would a conventional RT. Mine(Sunny 300 Roadrunner RT) has both front wheels parallel(no toe in or out) and she rides good. Another guy with same trike says he had to toe it out slightly to ride good. Ya gotta experiment with these beasts!!! Have fun!!! ;D |
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Post by mrpalmetto on Apr 19, 2013 17:49:34 GMT -5
New2scootn
So I'm taking it that you don't have any shakes or wobbles and you run parallel, is that right?
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Post by new2scootn on Apr 20, 2013 11:37:35 GMT -5
New2scootn So I'm taking it that you don't have any shakes or wobbles and you run parallel, is that right? Only very slight vibration at certain speeds. Lately though, I've been getting a hard braking induced oscillation(shake) in the front end which I'm not sure if wheel alignment is cause of. Doesn't happen all the time even on hard stops--as a matter of fact it has happened on a slow stop from about 35-40 mph. Just sets the front end off to hoppin' but only lasts a few seconds. I'll be checkin' my alignment again soon so I'll let ya know. |
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 20, 2013 12:06:41 GMT -5
Pick up one wheel at a time and grab the tire and try to move it. You will probably find there is movement where the hub connects to the front of the frame. If you look at that it is not the best design and usually the bolt has some slop. I do not even think there thrust bearins in there just a sleeve with the bolt going through it.
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Post by new2scootn on Apr 20, 2013 14:28:00 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]Thanks Alley, I'll take a look...  |
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Post by mrpalmetto on Apr 20, 2013 14:38:14 GMT -5
Today I'm a very happy boy (53) thanks to alleyoop and new2scootn. I have a 2013 MC_D150TKB. I say 2013 because the build date is Dec. 2012, which answers the question as to if they are making them any more, and if you look at it as cars are manufactured, it's a 2013. But who cares.
I Had the wobbles at 45 to 50 MPH. I read this board for two weeks and this is how i cured my problem
1- i put 5 Oz's of Ride On in each of the front tires.
2- i filled both tires with air exactly to 80% of the max pressure, cold
3- i put 6 Oz's of Ride On in the rear tire, as per Ride On tire size tables
4- filled the rear tire with air as above
5- i squared the wheels and bike up very, very similar to the drawing that alleyoop has posted many many times on the two forums.
6- i checked all the measurements i could to determine weather the front wheels were toed in, toed out, sideways, you get it. I had determined when my bike came assembled and the PDI was done by Scooter Depot, and then did my own PDI, that my wheels were toed in 1/4". By using the drawings alleyoop posted this was definitely confirmed. The trick is to determine which front tire is out of alignment, BECAUSE as new2scootin said the tires need to be parallel, and just as important, parallel with the rear wheel, So you use alleyoops drawings to determine which wheel is parallel with the REAR wheel, and then adjust the other.
7- once you determine which wheel needs adjustment, turn the adjustment arm to remove, or increase, half of the distance that the wheels are not parallel. For me i needed to make that bar 1/8" shorter, which is 4 turns of a flat side. Now my right wheel was 1/4" out. I loosened the nuts and from behind the bike i made 4 flat side turns DOWN, shortening the rod 1/8". I'm being specific because weather it's your right wheel or left wheel or toed in or toed out, it's probably different. Also it depends if your working from the front or back of the bike.
8- Because of this forum and the good people on it, I NAILED IT, (yes like i said I'm a happy boy) the first time.
So for me that is how you get the wobble out of a 150TKB. Make the front wheels Parallel to the rear wheel and your golden.
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Post by philgood on Apr 20, 2013 17:50:03 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Used 2 rails to set alignment on my son's reverse trike. Shimmy gone.
Can anyone tell me approximately how much oil the motor takes? 150 cc. And does it take standard motorcycle oil?
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 20, 2013 17:58:06 GMT -5
Any good 10w40 oil is good, I use CASTROL GTX 10W40 all year round, it takes 750ml which is about 3/4 of a quart. when you check with the dispstick just push it in do not screw it and pull it out. When the oil is HALFWAY up the XXXXXs that is good. Then you can screw it in and pull it out and it will cover all the XXXXXs on the dipstick.
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Post by new2scootn on Apr 20, 2013 23:40:05 GMT -5
Today I'm a very happy boy (53) thanks to alleyoop and new2scootn. I have a 2013 MC_D150TKB. I say 2013 because the build date is Dec. 2012, which answers the question as to if they are making them any more, and if you look at it as cars are manufactured, it's a 2013. But who cares. I Had the wobbles at 45 to 50 MPH. I read this board for two weeks and this is how i cured my problem 1- i put 5 Oz's of Ride On in each of the front tires. 2- i filled both tires with air exactly to 80% of the max pressure, cold 3- i put 6 Oz's of Ride On in the rear tire, as per Ride On tire size tables 4- filled the rear tire with air as above 5- i squared the wheels and bike up very, very similar to the drawing that alleyoop has posted many many times on the two forums. 6- i checked all the measurements i could to determine weather the front wheels were toed in, toed out, sideways, you get it. I had determined when my bike came assembled and the PDI was done by Scooter Depot, and then did my own PDI, that my wheels were toed in 1/4". By using the drawings alleyoop posted this was definitely confirmed. The trick is to determine which front tire is out of alignment, BECAUSE as new2scootin said the tires need to be parallel, and just as important, parallel with the rear wheel, So you use alleyoops drawings to determine which wheel is parallel with the REAR wheel, and then adjust the other. 7- once you determine which wheel needs adjustment, turn the adjustment arm to remove, or increase, half of the distance that the wheels are not parallel. For me i needed to make that bar 1/8" shorter, which is 4 turns of a flat side. Now my right wheel was 1/4" out. I loosened the nuts and from behind the bike i made 4 flat side turns DOWN, shortening the rod 1/8". I'm being specific because weather it's your right wheel or left wheel or toed in or toed out, it's probably different. Also it depends if your working from the front or back of the bike. 8- Because of this forum and the good people on it, I NAILED IT, (yes like i said I'm a happy boy) the first time. So for me that is how you get the wobble out of a 150TKB. Make the front wheels Parallel to the rear wheel and your golden. YOU THE MAN MRPALMETTO!! CONGRATULATIONS! Glad I could be of some help and I'll bet you and Alley will make checking and setting my alignment easier! ;D |
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