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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 10:06:51 GMT -5
Alley - this is a question for you As I had mentioned, I believe the four larger bolts (top of the axle on attached pic) need to be loosened, then the 4 eye bolts (below the axle) need to be adjusted, equally, to loosen the chain. My questions is: should the rear end be off the ground, to reduce any tension/pressure, or should the rear end be on the ground? Or does it make any difference? Also, I see a greese zerk in the middle of the differential/housing. Can I assume Chinese grease is as bad as chinese oil, and slam some grease in there? Is there any way to tell when enuf grease is in there? I know, too many questions, but I wanna get this thing right BEFORE I strarting putting some serious miles on it. And, making everything is tight/solid/lubricated as it should be to prevent any premature breakdowns. Other than that, I do like the bike and hope to ride as soon as it quits raining Tanks Dave Attachments:
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Post by fido64 on Apr 12, 2013 10:16:32 GMT -5
I can help you with the grease question after a little research for a high drop point grease [melting point] I found Lucas Red "N" Tacky 540 degree drop point can get it at auto zone.
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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 10:37:09 GMT -5
I can help you with the grease question after a little research for a high drop point grease [melting point] I found Lucas Red "N" Tacky 540 degree drop point can get it at auto zone. Kool I had one of them mini grease guns, but can't find it. May be time to get a new one specifically for the scoot. Autozsone loves me, and my 10% discount Thanx |
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Post by triker on Apr 12, 2013 11:08:24 GMT -5
I Tension the chain with it on the ground. Also when you adjust the chain check to make sure the rear axle is square to the frame. there should be about 3/4" slack in the chain. There is no real way to tell how much grease is in it. On my little trike I took it apart and cleaned out all the original grease and coated everything with the lucas before putting it back together. then gave it several pumps more. I also use lucas red "n" tacky #2. The chinese grease that is in there is more like vaseline.
Roy
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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 11:14:16 GMT -5
I Tension the chain with it on the ground. Also when you adjust the chain check to make sure the rear axle is square to the frame. there should be about 3/4" slack in the chain. There is no real way to tell how much grease is in it. On my little trike I took it apart and cleaned out all the original grease and coated everything with the lucas before putting it back together. then gave it several pumps more. I also use lucas red "n" tacky #2. The chinese grease that is in there is more like vaseline. Roy On the ground. OK, that answers that. And I'll get the red lucas. I was pretty sure chinese grease sucked. But now I know what grease is best. I don't feel like tearing it apart, but a shot of the good stuff should help tremendously. Yea, square to the frame, that's what I was getting at when i said equally (or whatever I said) Well, there goes tonights project. Glad the GF doesn't expect much from me. Thanx again Dave |
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Post by triker on Apr 12, 2013 11:25:36 GMT -5
Well I'm not going to get into a "best grease debate". Knowing how the chinese put things together the rear may not be square with the frame to start with.
Roy
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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 12:07:12 GMT -5
Well I'm not going to get into a "best grease debate". Knowing how the chinese put things together the rear may not be square with the frame to start with. Roy That could be a definate possibility (squared) However, I checked the adjustment bolts, and they 'appear' to be equal. Not sure now to determine if it is square, maybe a lazer light, IF i can find a square angle to begin with. Grease, yea, with these, I finger grease is grease. any US grease is gonna be better than what's in there now. Thanx Dave |
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Post by triker on Apr 12, 2013 12:28:56 GMT -5
I measured from the lower shock mounts to the axle tube and set both sides equal. This worked good for me. Maybe alley has a better idea.
Roy
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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 12:37:44 GMT -5
I measured from the lower shock mounts to the axle tube and set both sides equal. This worked good for me. Maybe alley has a better idea. Roy That seems like it'll work. I was trying to say something about finding a neutral/equal point of reference, but shock mounts work for me. Alley ususally chimes in pretty quick, but, it may be his nap time (LOL) I know I need some quiet time daily myself. Usually right after work and before I head out to the geeeradge to tinker. Thanx Roy Dave |
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 12, 2013 14:52:53 GMT -5
HAHAHA, yep nap time is right, I stay up late and get up late EXCEPT in the summer. I get out and ride in the nice warm sun.
But everything everyone said is right on. The higher the DROP point is on the grease the better because if you put in cheap grease with a low DROP point it will turn to liquid and sip out and fling it all over the underneath.
If the rear is not square you will notice it will want to steer one way or the other and you will find you holding the handlbars to keep it going straight. I use the front sprocket and rear sprocket alignment method because if your off to much the chain will make noise and wear a lot faster.
Alleyoop
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Post by DaveC on Apr 12, 2013 14:56:37 GMT -5
HAHAHA, yep nap time is right, I stay up late and get up late EXCEPT in the summer. I get out and ride in the nice warm sun. But everything everyone said is right on. The higher the DROP point is on the grease the better because if you put in cheap grease with a low DROP point it will turn to liquid and sip out and fling it all over the underneath. If the rear is not square you will notice it will want to steer one way or the other and you will find you holding the handlbars to to keep it going straight. I use the front sprocket and rear sprocket alignment method because if your off to much the chain will make noise and wear a lot faster. Alleyoop Thanks Alley Good stuff to know, for the newbie |
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Post by RapidJim on Apr 13, 2013 8:18:10 GMT -5
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Post by DaveC on Apr 13, 2013 18:09:06 GMT -5
OK I'm an idiot I loosened the 17mm bolts on the top, above the axle. I assumed I turned the smaller 14mm eye bolts clockwise to bring the axle in closer to loosen the chain. But, for the life of me, it doesn't appear to be working. So, my question is: Do I turn the adjustment nut IN to loosen the chain, or OUT? Do I need to put sme extra pressure on the axle to 'help' it, or free it up, so it'll move easier? Gotta get it registered Monday and want to make sure it's right. Thanx Dave Attachments:
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Post by triker on Apr 13, 2013 22:34:31 GMT -5
You have to loosen all four 17mm bolts. The two on the bottom hold the eye bolts and are is a slot. To loosen the chain back the nuts out. You will have to push the axle tube forward, the use of a pry bar will help. Or try to rock the trike back wile holding the rear brake.  Roy |
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Post by DaveC on Apr 13, 2013 23:22:47 GMT -5
You have to loosen all four 17mm bolts. The two on the bottom hold the eye bolts and are is a slot. To loosen the chain back the nuts out. You will have to push the axle tube forward, the use of a pry bar will help. Or try to rock the trike back wile holding the rear brake. Roy PUSH THE AXLE TUBE FORWARD WITH A PRY BAR That's what I was looking for Now it makes sense I had the theory, but not the practical I had the 4 17mm loosened I saw the 14mm were slotted Just didn't know how to move the axle Was assuming tightening the 14mm nuts would pull it in....NOT!!! thanks Roy D |
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