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Post by newguy757 on Apr 7, 2013 23:38:53 GMT -5
shop i bought mine at sells 100cc trike for 2k worth it or not parts and labor could run you that + right? not going three wheels but hey i need to lean and turn not turn no lean!
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 7, 2013 23:53:09 GMT -5
Yep, that is a good deal for a trike with a motor already setup, actually when they say 100ccs they are really 83cs sound much better, they all round up the Cs up on every BBK. As for leaning and turning more chance of it sliding out from under you if your wheel goes over anything loose on the road while making your lean to turn.  Alleyoop |
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Post by triker on Apr 8, 2013 0:04:47 GMT -5
Ya, that probably is a good deal. Mine came from the factory with a secret 72cc engine installed. I paid $1700 for it in 2010. Put one of these trikes through a hard corner to fast and you will be leaning.  I have had my mojo on two wheels several times. I ride it to the limit though. Roy |
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Post by chihuahuas on Apr 8, 2013 8:14:58 GMT -5
3 wheeled scoots are defective in design. 1. the rear wheel is missing. The weight of it acts like a vibration damper. Without it the scooter vibrates like crazy. Add a hack 100cc oversize to a stock 50 and you are asking for a major vibration monkey. Not to mention the engine will blow up sooner than later. Don't waste money on a 50cc trike. Buy a real one. Or sit on one and have you picture taken.  |
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Post by DaveC on Apr 8, 2013 15:33:04 GMT -5
3 wheeled scoots are defective in design. 1. the rear wheel is missing. The weight of it acts like a vibration damper. Without it the scooter vibrates like crazy. Add a hack 100cc oversize to a stock 50 and you are asking for a major vibration monkey. Not to mention the engine will blow up sooner than later. Don't waste money on a 50cc trike. Buy a real one. Or sit on one and have you picture taken. Some of us have no choice but to ride a trike. Not too sure about a 50cc trike tho. Thing is, get what you want and enjoy it |
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 8, 2013 15:58:40 GMT -5
Don't know what he means by vibration because it is a Trike and it is missing a wheel in back? People say things that they do no know nothing about and then puts up a picture of a half a car with a motorcycle engine and a steering wheel go figure.
Alleyoop
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Post by oldchopperguy on Apr 9, 2013 1:21:11 GMT -5
3-weelers have their own benefits, and problems.
Having tried out a VERY expensive Can Am Spyder, I'd think those with 2 front wheels and auto-type suspension/steering might be the best idea, but not necessarily so. I've ridden other fellows' traditional trikes like the "Z" pictured above, but in the 150 size, and they seem to drive just fine. The only problem I've seen is that engine-for-engine they are a bit heavy, and sometimes, just a little slower than their 2-wheel brothers. Not much though... Many 150 trikes will still do 55+ while providing the stability of 3 wheels.
Worst problem I've had with them is "forgetting" it's NOT a 2-wheeler, and hanging a rear wheel outside my lane... LOL! But then, I'm getting old... HeHeHe...
Some trikes even "flex" so they can be leaned through turns like a 2-wheeler. You really need to check into trikes well before making a decision. I'd REALLY try to get at least a 150 cc if you possibly can. Even our 150's are not all that fast, and you can use all the power you can afford with the trike. If a 50 will do what you need it to, that's fine, but a 50 is not going to be too confidence-inspiring when pulling into traffic.
Just be sure you are getting the best ride for your money. This site is a good place to find advice, and I'm sure you'll get a lot of answers. I'm partial to Alleyoop, since he's given me some FABULOUS advice on repairing my own scoot.
Ride safe, whatever you get...
Leo in Texas
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Post by triker on Apr 9, 2013 9:58:21 GMT -5
3 wheeled scoots are defective in design. 1. the rear wheel is missing. The weight of it acts like a vibration damper. Without it the scooter vibrates like crazy. Add a hack 100cc oversize to a stock 50 and you are asking for a major vibration monkey. Not to mention the engine will blow up sooner than later. Don't waste money on a 50cc trike. Buy a real one. Or sit on one and have you picture taken. Have you ridden a 50cc trike? If not don't tell people to waste money on one. I love mine. Whats a real one by your definition. I own a 300 also. Is that real enough for ya? I have had a "100cc over-sized engine in mine and it didn't vibrate any more than any other engine. I stated in an earlier post that I ride my 50 to the limit. I have a race course that I run it on. ( I will post a video when I get a camera mounted) I have ran these little engines past 9krpm and 50+mph haven't blown an engine yet. I Have tried to blow an engine, Just to find out what it will take. Its all fun for me, maybe not every one else though. I'm not normal though. I love to push things to the limit to see what it takes to break. Then I fix them and do it again. It is not the design of the trikes that make them vibrate more it is the design of the motor mounts. Roy |
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Post by DaveC on Apr 9, 2013 10:01:50 GMT -5
Agreed to the part about 50 being border line, a 150 being middle ok, but my Zodiac has a 300 (+/-)
And yea, the damn thing is heavy, supposedly 573 lbs. Almost as heavy as my Honda Shadow Sabre.
3 wheels is a different ride/handling, agreed.
And, yes, with that weight, and three wheels to turn, it's ain't gonna be as fast as a 2 wheel scoot with same engine.
I made the decision to get this trike cause no US/Japanese mfgr offered anything in the form of a trike. (without paying $25K-$32K)
And a Can Am just wasn't getting it, even at a mere $20K +/-
And, I didn't wanna get a scoot and have it triked.
Cost woulda been more than double what I paid for the Zodiac.
Still working on the registration/title/plates, so haven't been able to give my analysis of it yet.
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Post by triker on Apr 9, 2013 10:22:54 GMT -5
In Missouri, the law states a 50cc scooter cannot travel more than 32 mph. I can legally ride my 50cc trike just as fast as any other 50cc scooter, and actually almost as fast as any 4t 50cc scooter. I can't ride two wheels anymore (bad knees) so I bought this 50 because I didn't want to mess With insurance, registration ect. I bought it as a tinker toy, something to mod.
The 300's are heavy trikes and with the extra weight they are not as fast as a two wheel counterpart. But they are surprisingly fast. They do have decent acceleration and I can legally ride it just as fast as any other vehicle on the road. The fastest I have had the magnum Is 85mph verified by gps. (the speedo was reading 90mph)
Roy
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Post by crawdad on Apr 9, 2013 11:46:02 GMT -5
As a point of information. --- What are they pros and cons with a trike . And as a 50cc doesn't need a motorcycle attachment ,is it worth the investment ? I am talking Chinese tykes. It would still have to be under 35 MPH in my state to be considered as a moped . Would it be OK in moderate traffic? They do sound interesting to me !
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Post by triker on Apr 9, 2013 13:32:54 GMT -5
As a point of information. --- What are they pros and cons with a trike . And as a 50cc doesn't need a motorcycle attachment ,is it worth the investment ? I am talking Chinese tykes. It would still have to be under 35 MPH in my state to be considered as a moped . Would it be OK in moderate traffic? They do sound interesting to me ! Well, I'll start with the pro's, there's really not many. First they are cool and draw a lot of attention. You don't have to hold them up and you don't have to put your feet down every time you stop. You don't have to use a kick/center stand, they will not fall over. They will not slip out from under you on slick spots. Now for the cons, I'm not gonna blow smoke here. They are heavier than a two wheel, my 50cc trike weights in at 295 pounds. A true stock 50cc would probably be fairly slow, and hills will strain it. Expect to lose a lot of speed. You really do not ride a trike, you drive a trike. You do not lean in the corners, and you must turn the handlebars the direction of the turn. They do not corner as well as a two wheeler. You must slow down more and they have a wider turn radius. They are a lot wider in the rear. You have to pay attention so you don't hit the curb with a rear wheel. You can't slip through long lines of stopped traffic. You can't swerve around stuff as quickly. "Is it worth the investment?" Hmm, trick question there. A true stock 50cc, my opinion would be no, (mine came with a secret 72cc) unless you just plan on cruising around a residential neighborhood with 25mph speed limits. If you plan on putting on a bbk of at least 72cc (83cc would be better) with free flow intake and exhaust, and with mods to the trans it will handle the hills better and keep up with moderate traffic. Yes it is worth it. This is just my opinion from my experience. Roy |
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Post by xylon on Apr 9, 2013 14:34:12 GMT -5
Are they safer? I hit a pothole on my two wheeler and bounced off and hurt my leg...
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Post by xylon on Apr 9, 2013 14:38:59 GMT -5
Could a trike fall over if you cornered too fast?
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Post by RapidJim on Apr 9, 2013 16:35:12 GMT -5
Yeah What they all said up there. . . . . . .
I will say that I wouldn't sell a reverse trike out of my shop. The chinese clones reverse trikes are trouble in my experience, esp keeping them aligned and steering issues. To be fair I have heard they have done some mods on them but I haven't seen nor heard from anyone that has the new ones. I can say that Ice Bear refuses to sell anymore reverse trikes, btw the reverse trikes are made by another company and Ice Bear just distriibuted them.
I will continue to sell Ice Bear conventional trikes. my experience has been great with them.
Jim/Owner
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