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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 22:09:45 GMT -5
Hey rcq , I just realized you said thee gear behind the variator was harder to get back in ? You do know that gear just sets back in place and the variator is tightened down against it . it doesn't pop or snap back into place. The reason it is so hard " sometimes" to get back off is because it is in place for so long . its beveled on the inside of the gear and sets in place. Nothing to reinstalling it.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 20:35:43 GMT -5
This is what I am talking about. My 8 amp electric impact does not even turn the crank a quarter turn . because I hold the variator with my hand . drive face that is. You must know what you are doing when using certain tools.
I highly doubt "all " the oil will be shaken off the bearings in 2 seconds of using an impact. Also the oil pump is pumping oil when the crank rotates forward. Either way , the variator should always be held in place even with an impact. Its very easy to do if you hold the drive face with you free hand, then no spinning.
If somehow the variator spins then I agree with jerry , its not enough to cause any bearing issue.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 19:50:09 GMT -5
Even the other videos. Its just hard sometimes when your not there , to pick up the noises.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 19:46:19 GMT -5
Honestly the more I listen to it , the more it does not sound right.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 18:25:12 GMT -5
You are a manly man, George. Me ---- girly man, I guess! Lol, I doubt I'd snap the crankshaft. I think my main point was it's easy to strip bolts with any type of tool even a socket wrench . its mainly just being careful with the tools u use. I have snapped a few wheel lugs before , with hand tools. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 17:17:22 GMT -5
I use a huge 8amp electric craftsman impact . never had an issue . u have to be smart about using it. I can overtighten nuts with a socket wrench and snap bolts . its all about knowing how to use the tools you decide to use
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 16:05:49 GMT -5
Here are some pics of the second one that went bad. The second one was an ncy starter clutch , but this one didn't show any signs of messing up until it started doing the same thing murkys is doing. It did make a weird wining type noise as I remember. Here is the thread. www.dansgaragetalk.com/topic/357-starter-issue/#comment-2690 |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 15:46:49 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 15:42:10 GMT -5
I went back and read what he said . he heard a tapping noise the day before. I wish I could find the video i posted that showed the noise my first started clutch was making while it was running. I'll look for it.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 15:38:57 GMT -5
If I recall correctly , he mentioned he heard a noise the day before . was the noise during startup ?
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 15:36:24 GMT -5
Hey rcq , does his engine sound a little winy when it is turning over ? I understand it may just be the starter , but my started clutch made a noise like that also .
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 15:04:31 GMT -5
If that does not work , then the issue is either on the opposite side " starter clutch side" , top end or inside the case. Whoa, George. Not to argue - but thinking thru this ... That gear is a to get off and even worse to get back on. And even though Murky may not use the kick starter, without that gear the variator won't work. Seems like a million-to-one shot this is the problem, since the gear was not messed with since the engine was running fine. My suggestion would be to assume it's OK and move on. I thought Apricot was going to take pix of the valve timing (the cam gear and the flywheel) ... just in case ... and I thought he would verify the placement of the black (negative) jumper cable when trying to jumpo start. And ... presuming that all is OK, I'd agree to either look at the cylinder work or the starter clutch (odds on favorite being the former). I agree , that darn gear can be a pain to get off. The one on my first engine came off somewhat easy but the one on the second engine is nearly impossible to get off ,lol. I honestly don't think its the issue either , but I'm just trying to cover every possibility. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 7, 2016 21:13:38 GMT -5
If that does not work , then the issue is either on the opposite side " starter clutch side" , top end or inside the case.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 7, 2016 21:10:55 GMT -5
Do me a favor , pop the starter gear off from behind the variator then turn the scoot over.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 7, 2016 21:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah , I think some missed that u already tried it without the belt. Before the video. Even if the variator was cracked , smashed welded to the boss and what not , it would still not cause this issue , lol.
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