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Post by geh3333 on Jan 21, 2016 22:37:25 GMT -5
Hi, all you scooter fans, got a simple ? I'm pretty sure my starter clutch is going bad,it still works, but now and then it makes a strange noise. so I think I'm going to replace it be for it leaves me stranded some place. I've got all the correct tools to do the job. just one ? is the hut that holes the gear on a left handed tread or right hand tread ? I haven't tore in to it yet but would just like to know before I do. all the videos I've looked at seem to show left handed treads but no one stats that it is. a conformation would be really helpful. OH,ya this is on a 150cc 1 57qmj motor . thanks in advance for the info. later The starter clutch new is reversed threads . I've replaced 2 already . |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 18, 2016 12:13:27 GMT -5
I guess when I comes to someone who has used impacts for many years, it is common knowledge that its easy to strip threads with them , but that doesn't keep us from using them "because we know how to use them". ever since I bought my scoot , I had all the older wiser members tell me to buy an impact for the variator and clutch nut . i guess its hard for me to tell others to use tools that I do not like to use, especially when there is an easier way .
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 12, 2016 0:34:23 GMT -5
Didn't take much to make the si's look bad a-s  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 12, 2016 0:31:59 GMT -5
What about the Honda CRX !!
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 11, 2016 15:46:46 GMT -5
I should add that I wasn't implying " rock" does not know how to use certain tools. Just that the ones tearing up the CVT and whatnot does not know how to .
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:18:31 GMT -5
I'm still looking for the gear
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:16:39 GMT -5
Here is a pic of he inside " behind the side cover" . the big gear in the center pulls straight out . you do not need to take the starter nut off to pull the gear off. You can also see that I did not have to take the muffler or rear wheel off to remove the side cover. You do have to remove the 2 bolts holding the swingarm to the side cover a and after pulling the side cover the swingarm will drop to the floor but will still be attached at the axle. Remember to hold the swingarm up some " almost in place " while installing the side cover or the swingarm will not swing back up in place , it will be stuck under the cover.  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:03:20 GMT -5
The roller on top is in place , the other 2 are not. When I pulled the gear from the clutch , one of the rollers fell out of place. They should not do that. The rollers are held in place and should not turn " out of place " . I ended up popping the other one out of place by prying on it with a screwdriver. If you find that one is out of place , you cannot just put it back in place . that means something is broke inside . I need to find the gear , I had it a few days ago and now I cannot find it . I'll post a pic in a few.  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 20:35:38 GMT -5
On my way home from Pittsburgh right now , so it will be a little later . Gosh, George - I hope she is OK! No one promises us even 1 more day. Don't put off to tomorrow anything you should do today. Drive carefully. Just made it home , I'll get some pics posted. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:44:11 GMT -5
On my way home from Pittsburgh right now , so it will be a little later .
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:43:13 GMT -5
I always figured the bevel was there so you didn't have to press it in. Hey murky , don't worry about the gear behind the variator. I'd check the starter clutch . I know I mentioned the that gear , but I'm with rcq, I doubt that's the issue. I still believe your at the point where you need to check the starter clutch. If it were me I would have checked earlier , but that's only because its happened to me before . I'd like to see pics of the clutch before its removed and after. Also pics of the inside oof the clutch gear where the rollers contact it. Alright I'll do all that as soon as the puller gets here Also i post pics of the timing tomorrow I'll take pics of my first starter clutch " I still have it" and I'll take pics of where to look for the damage on the Gear. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:32:00 GMT -5
I think I understand now. What you are describing is improper use of an impact wrench, not damage due to choice of tools. Stripped threads can be caused by improper use of any tool, and I wholeheartedly agree that improper use of an impact wrench will do more damage faster. Thanks for the clarification! One thing I have noticed is that the drive face gears are very strong. When my impact broke last week, I tried using a monkey wrench to hold the drive face gear teeth. I didn't even scuff the gear teeth, but the monkey wrench got several scrapes as a result. I would definitely recommend the variator removal tool that screws into the CVT bolt holes with teeth aligned to the drive face gear teeth, they are cheap and easy to use. However, one still must use proper care to prevent stripping or cross-threading the crank end threads with any tool.  Your right jerry, that's what I was saying also . you have to know how to use the tools at hand on the task at hand. My 8 amp impact is massive for using on a variator nut ,but if you use it wisely it works just the same , and It works on my car also so I don't need 2 different impacts. The only thing is I cannot use it for a roadside fix , but in the past 4+ years , I never needed one anyway. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:24:39 GMT -5
My first s clutch that Wasn't bad didn't show much damage . the only thing I saw was one of the rollers were out of place. The second one was destroyed . but with you symptoms I'd expect some sign of damage.
Sorry I've been Away for the past few days , wife was in the hospital again , but everything turned out good.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:18:16 GMT -5
I always figured the bevel was there so you didn't have to press it in.
Hey murky , don't worry about the gear behind the variator. I'd check the starter clutch . I know I mentioned the that gear , but I'm with rcq, I doubt that's the issue. I still believe your at the point where you need to check the starter clutch. If it were me I would have checked earlier , but that's only because its happened to me before . I'd like to see pics of the clutch before its removed and after. Also pics of the inside oof the clutch gear where the rollers contact it.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 22:24:55 GMT -5
I've seen it pressed into the tadia engines, but I've seen then just tightened behind the variator and they go right into place. Its not like a bearing how they need pressed in. The crank shaft is beveled and the gear is beveled to fit right against it .
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