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Post by rdhood on Dec 24, 2014 14:43:25 GMT -5
If the fork is bent put it in a table vice and bang on it till it is mostly straight again, that's what I did for the current tripletree I have. Mind you they are not meant to be bent so it will take a lot of careful but hard effort. You have to make sure not to warp it when you are trying to form it back to a straight fork. Hopefully it wont come to that. I'd look for a replacement before resorting to hammering the steerer (what it is called on a bicycle). I actual straightened a rifle barrel once using a 12ton press and the concentric circle/rifling pattern made when you look at a light down the bore. I had two other rifles to compare to, and got close enough that no one shooting the gun knows any different. I drove over to scooterbelt.com (yep, they are about 8 miles from me)and purchased a gates belt. They have a warehouse, and no problem selling from the office. Stopped by autozone (also on the way) and got gear oil, motor oil and an NGK plug. I'll get all of this done over the next couple of days and take it for a test ride by the weekend! |
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Post by rdhood on Dec 24, 2014 7:55:38 GMT -5
When you put it back together use white lithium grease, it lasts long and stands up well against the elements, I have had to rebuild my front end 3 times due to Boston's notorious potholes, it still looks like new grease after a few months of being in there. The grease should also help a ton with getting all those pesky balls into the cup and keeping them there while you slide it back in. Make sure the shaft is not crooked either, I had a tripletree that had a slightly bent shaft, it would cause my scoot to lean a bit to one side and make it harder to take turns in the opposite direction, not to mention straight wasn't exactly straight anymore. Will do. That is really the only thing I'm worried about... that he may have actually rode it like this and damaged the bearings or fork. Assuming that he didn't , I should have this on the road by this weekend. |
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Post by rdhood on Dec 23, 2014 9:57:26 GMT -5
Still trying to figure out how to get the front plastic off. There is DEFINITELY a steering bearing problem. I look up from the forks under the fender, and you can actually SEE the bearings in the lower cup... there is a huge gap. I'm hoping nothing is damaged and that none of the ball bearings is missing. That is my goal for my next week off... to figure out how to get to the upper part of the fork where I can tighten them. A video on youtube seems to indicate that you can unloosen all the screws and the front panel will come off exposing the upper part of the fork.
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Post by rdhood on Dec 23, 2014 9:52:01 GMT -5
Well, I put it all back together before I forgot how... AND I STILL LOST 6 SCREWS!. This thing is in an ENCLOSED room. I honestly don't know how that could possibly happen. Nonetheless, I am going to take some advice and NOT take the plastic off. That said, I was able to pull the battery and charge it. Put it back in the scoot, press the starter and it started right up. Yeah! So I'll just leave the panels on, for the most part, and start changing oil, belt, plug, adjust valves....
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Post by rdhood on Dec 22, 2014 22:43:53 GMT -5
Yes, unscrew everything. Though why are you taking them off? I have found even while installing a new engine you can manage to do it without taking the panels off and just using tools that can get into tight spaces at angles, like using an allen wrench and a socket to get hard to reach bolts loose so I could just unscrew them by hand. But if you need to take the panels off, start at the top, remove the trunk and rack, move down unscrewing each and every screw. I like to use an ice cube tray for organizing the screws for the panels, they use all sorts of different sizes and the tray just makes it easy to reassemble if you do it in order. That sounds like a plan. And I am taking them off because I have read...over and over... to strip it , make sure everything is tight, change out a list of things (vacuum, fuel lines, etc). Calm is the word.... |
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Post by rdhood on Dec 22, 2014 21:51:19 GMT -5
Alright. I am starting to get to this now, never having dealt with a scooter before, and just getting the plastic side panels off is torture! Does every single panel have to come off? Did the chinese have to use a different size screw for every hole and panel? We are talking 60 or 70 screws. Is there some trick to this?
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Post by rdhood on Dec 21, 2014 20:05:28 GMT -5
Well, I picked up the scoot today. The steering thing is almost certainly the headset. I have wrenched bicycles for 25 years and 100k miles (seriously), have installed and adjusted a couple dozen headsets. This thing has the loose headset "clunk" when hitting the breaks while pushing the bike. I seriously think the original owner rode it for 300 miles and the headset loosened up where he couldn't ride it... so he didn't .
He got the scooter because he lost his license. Tactfully took the "1" off of the "150-T" to ride it without a plate. Got his license back , got a truck and abandoned it. I got it, a helmet and a cover for $400. I honestly don't think that there is anything wrong with it other than the loose headset! The thing is beautiful! Nonetheless, I am going to treat it like I just unboxed it and go over the whole bike.
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Post by rdhood on Dec 13, 2014 9:05:04 GMT -5
Just Picked up a 2013 Pioneer 150-T scooter (Jonway on the Cert of Origination). It looks like an Aprilia SR50 knockoff. It has 300 miles on the odo, and has sat for most of this year (according to the owner). It cost me $400 and came with helmet and scooter cover. The scooter starts and idles. I am picking it up next Saturday. This is my first scoot, and I am a reasonably mechanical person ( have changed transmissions, clutches, rebuilt riding mowers, etc.). I am an EE/CS (both degrees), so I can troubleshoot electrical issues as well. I have been wanting a scooter since my first wife and I went to Grand Cayman for a week in the early  's. We spent a week on a scooter and ... it was great! I am doing THIS scooter because I could get a reasonably new, low mileage scooter for very cheap.. (BTW, $300-$400 low mileage 150cc scooters that sort of run actually do come up for sale here on a regular basis.) Anyway, I am sure I'll have lots of questions along the way as I discover the care and feeding of the GY6 |
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Post by rdhood on Dec 8, 2014 10:34:15 GMT -5
Will do. I'll take it apart and have a look
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Post by rdhood on Dec 8, 2014 9:44:32 GMT -5
The when using the center stand, the front wheel should only be affected by an incline the scooter is on. If on flat ground, the front wheel should remain in whatever position you put it in, and should not have a tendency towards any direction. This. When put on the center stand, the front wheel will flop over to the right rather than staying centered. When brought back to center, it will flop over the right again. |
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Post by rdhood on Dec 8, 2014 0:17:53 GMT -5
First me: complete scooter newbie. Last winter, I rebuilt a John Deere mower and transmission. Didn't know anything about them before I started.
This winter, I am doing a 150cc scooter project. Today, I purchased a 2013 Pioneer 150-T (says Jonway QT-150 on the cert of origin) for $400 (with helmet and cover). It has 300 miles. It starts and idles. With that, I am going to do all of the little things to it that one would do on a brand new scoot to make it more... stable.
But the one thing that the previous owner did point out that I am looking for direction on is this: when you put the scooter up on the kickstand, the front wheel/bars will turn to the right. He said that it is supposed to stay centered. He said that the result is that there is a tendancy to pull to the right while riding, and said the shop estimated a $100 fix. What am I likely looking at here? Something hit or bent? I am sure that these things have something akin to a bicycle headset... perhaps it is indexed somehow to hold center, and that is now failing? I am just trying to figure out where to look for the problem is.
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's. We spent a week on a scooter and ... it was great! I am doing THIS scooter because I could get a reasonably new, low mileage scooter for very cheap.. (BTW, $300-$400 low mileage 150cc scooters that sort of run actually do come up for sale here on a regular basis.) 