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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 17, 2013 14:33:03 GMT -5
I had one on my bike and I didn't care for it. I ride a Verano 150, and I couldn't get it to stay in position and the wind hit my helmet making it rumble. I've riden other bikes and I've liked them but on that particular bike, it just don't seem to work for me.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 16, 2013 23:40:51 GMT -5
Ken, I wasn't disagreeing with your post.... I probably should of said riding while angry. I've seen guys take off after cars, because they were cut off or something.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 16, 2013 21:53:52 GMT -5
If you were in my area, I'd say bring it by.... we'll get it out of there... That being said, it's really easy to take the plastic cooling shroud off the engine. It is like two bolts and one screw... Take a look at it... it's very easy... then see if you can get it out with a magnet or screwdriver. DON'T PRY ON ANYTHING! If that doesn't work, see if someone has a flywheel puller for a gy6 150cc engine... the fly wheel pulls pretty easy if you can keep the motor from turning or have access to an impact wrench... This would be a 20 minute operation from pulling it into my garage to driving it back out.
You do want to get it out of there tho... besides it tearing up the coils in the stator, it could cause some weird ignition problems, or scar up the case.
Are you friendly with a local shop? If you end up taking it in... I would think they would charge you for an hour of shop time which is probably the min they charge.... In my shop, I'd just fix it, and tell ya not to do that again.... and send you on your way, as long as you didn't break anything. But then I'm a big one for wanting good will with my customers too. Scooter people talk to each other, and I get way more back then I give away. About the only thing I don't do is tires.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 16, 2013 19:13:56 GMT -5
still gotta wonder where the piston went.... you can put it back together for under 300 including tools. The tools are not too pricey and they are nice to have around. I need the gear puller for the crank on my 150 and once I have that, I should be pretty much able to break these down without any problems. I have my impact for the variator, flywheel puller and a starter nut socket... so I'm pretty good at this point.
With that level of carnage, I'd replace the oil pump and timing chain as well... Just to be safe, ya don't wanna do it twice!
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 16, 2013 19:07:46 GMT -5
My rear tire was 135 installed with a new valve stem and it's a 150 cc short case mono shock, so 200 for both isn't way out of line. 135 I thought was a little pricey but then I do all the work on my scoot usually. I was just in a bind 'cause I had a blow out and it was on the back of a tow truck. I put a Kendra on it as well, instead of a cheaper chinese tire, not the Kendra is as good as a michelin or anything, but it was the best they had in stock in my size and it was way better then the tire that came on the scoot.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 14, 2013 21:52:14 GMT -5
I think he said it was a hunter, not a Vintage. Also, not all the Vintages had leading link front ends. Only the 10" wheeled ones. They had a 12" model that had regular strut type front suspension.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 14, 2013 20:36:42 GMT -5
It isn't gonna take much of a bend at the top to manifest itself in a big change at the bottom. I bet the tree is bent. It doesn't look good in the head bearing area.
Can you take a picture of it from the side?
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 14, 2013 20:27:33 GMT -5
I look at it this way... My $500 craigslist special, looks good, runs pretty reliable (I've had two blow outs in two weeks but I can't blame the bike on the second one), isn't too slow and got me on two wheels. I've got way more then 500 bucks enjoyment out of it and I'm sure I'll get my money back out of it when I upgrade, If I don't hang on to it. Am I any more a scooterest then my buddy that rides a 500cc Piaggio because he does't wrench on it? No, I don't think so, we still have great big smiles on our faces when we ride together. I actually even like wrenchin' on them... doesn't that make me a scooterest? No it makes me a masochist...  |
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 14, 2013 19:48:09 GMT -5
I really think tuning the variator and changing weights is the biggest bang for the buck on the 150cc bikes. In my case, the Hoca unit really helped and it's fairly easy. On another bike, I did a exhaust, and a uni, and it didn't make nearly the difference the variator and weight changes did. It was way more work, and I had to re-jet to make it all work right. In that case the exhaust was an ebay special, it looked nice, it's loud to the point of being annoying and I just didn't see the gains I'd expect. That one is my buddies bike, he likes it, so it's all good. I just prefer a nice quiet bike.... I know, loud pipes save lives... but dang... I don't wanna scare small children riding something that sounds like a Briggs and Stratton on crack. I've never really liked the sound of a loud thumper anyway...
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 14, 2013 8:23:02 GMT -5
Yes it did.... Changing to the Hoca and 12 gram rollers did make a huge difference. It was the set up I ran for 3000 miles.... Sliders make it even better. It is just a sweet running set up.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 13, 2013 23:35:03 GMT -5
I don't have a stock variator so the 12 gram roller weights worked pretty well but the sliders do a better job of keeping it in the powerband, again I'm a heavy rider on a 10" wheeled scooter. 1 gram on sliders usually only make a 500rpm change and yes, they are in right, I double checked the diagram when I put them in. They are doing their job, keeping the bike in it's power band. It's damn near perfect at this point. It just didn't make too big a difference on take off is all. Where I really noticed is in the turns and anytime I roll back on the throttle. What made a huge difference on take off was going from a stock 107mm variator with 14gram weights to a 115mm variator with 12gram rollers. That was a huge difference.
There are so many variables and every bike, rider combo is different.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 13, 2013 11:23:48 GMT -5
I was running 12 gram rollers and since it was time to do a belt change, I figured I'd try a set of sliders. So off to the local Scooter shop I went. Bought my gates powerlink and a set of Scoot Ninja 11 gram sliders. I already have a 115MM Hoca variator and the 12 gram rollers that came with the varator and they seem pretty close to the ball park. The bike I ride is pretty light, but I am 300lbs so the bike does work hard so with a lighter rider, the 12 gram roller may be a little light.
At first, I didn't notice a big difference when I test drove it after changing the belt and putting in the sliders. Most of my test drive was on a straight road so I usually just flog the heck out of it. What I did notice it was alot smoother and it would get to the power band a lot quicker. Then I got the bike around a few corners and WOW, the bike would be right in the power band when you rolled back on the throttle and on the whole, made the little bike a lot more fun. I'm not going to say I carve canyons or anything, but I do lean the bike a bit and so being able to get a little more out of turn really fits my riding style... Then I noticed on the way home (it's about 30 miles from my buddies place where I changed the belt) that while my take off speed was pretty close to the same, if I had to let off the throttle, then get back on the throttle, the bike was way more responsive. I didn't lose top speed either, something I was concerned about going to the lighter weight. Climbing overpasses is better to. The bike feels more capable, and competent.
All and all, I'm really happy with my cheap mod ($25.00 set of sliders).
I then let my friend ride it, he is also a 300lbs rider and he rides a later version of my bike. He was like wow... Do what you did to your bike, to my bike. I think that is a great complement.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 13, 2013 10:50:25 GMT -5
I have a short case on mine so changing over wouldn't be easy.... Oh how I'd love to ditch that drum in the rear... it's very ummmm grabby and pulsey when it gets hot. Although my rear wheel does have a little wobble so that is probably most of the problem. All and all, I hate that drum brake. Not only that, it just doesn't feel like it would be adequate if I got any more speed out of the bike. It does 70 indicated and 58 via GPS. When it did about 52 or 53 tops the brake seem like it was adequate, that extra 5mph made all the difference.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 13, 2013 10:33:33 GMT -5
Just remember when you ride, YOU ARE INVISIBLE.... people will change lanes into you, they will turn in front of you, they will cut you off... Just keep your cool and ride on. Don't let it rule you. If it starts to rule you, pull over and chill for a sec. Being aggressive on a bike because you are mad is a good way to get hurt! And since you are on a scooter, only about 1/2 the motorcycle riders will wave at you... , although I did slice up a harley pretty good in traffic this weekend. They stopped beside me and thought my little fortune cookie was cool and was surprise at how quick it is. |
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 13, 2013 10:09:23 GMT -5
There is quite a bit of Value to having it in stock.... I'll say that.
I'm a buyer by profession and there is an old adage... "Cheap, Fast, and of good quality, Pick two"
You can have it quick and of good quality but it is not going to be cheap, or you can get it fast, cheap and the quality will not be there, or of course you can get it cheap and of good quality but you are going to have to wait for it.... You can't, in most cases have all three.
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