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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 26, 2013 4:20:19 GMT -5
If that is the engine in your bike, it is diffidently NOT a honda clone, at least not a GY6 250 water pumper anyway. They cylinder is upright so it's not the yamaha clone either.
The Honda Helix 250 is legendary for reliability the 250cc chinese clones are hit and miss... Now the air cooled GY6's are pretty bomb proof. I'm constantly impressed by how much punishment they take. it's all in the QC and metallurgy and machining.
I do know that Kymco has a really good reputation for building excellent bikes and I really think you have a winner with what you bought.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 26, 2013 4:05:25 GMT -5
I do have a smaller inseam 30" so the savage would fit fairly well. It's one of the reason's I'm looking at the Buell. Here is my current problem. Putting my leg over on a lot of these bikes, gives me a charley horse. I got on a duel sport in the show room, and got a charlie horse, and that's really not good when you are trying to get on a bike. Same thing happened with a Ninja I was working on. Tried to get on it, to take it off the center stand and instant charlie horse. It wasn't a problem on the hornet. The savage would probably be good in this respect, so will the buell. I tore a calf muscle and it just doesn't like stretching like that. I'm sure if I started stretching that muscle more, the condition would get better, I just didn't know it was as bad as it is, until I tried getting on some of these bikes. Weight of the bike doesn't seem to hurt it much, it's just getting the leg over is what is killing me. I've ridden a 500 beverly (heavy bike) and a '04 500 Scarabeo (even heavier) and it wasn't a problem. Dry weight on both of those bike is like 500+ lbs. The Scarabeo is a huge bike but dayam is it beautiful and I loved riding it every minute. It's just not good value for money and I think I would be better served with the motor cycle. Since I work on my buddies bikes, I get to ride them from time to time... It's one of the perks...
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 14:17:04 GMT -5
He said, it looked like a sport bike, so therefore it will run like a sport bike..... WRONG! lol
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 13:41:32 GMT -5
Some ATV's use the 250 water pumper. They are not a bad engine, they just need a few things to make them reliable, at least in the case of the Znen's. The coolant used in them for one is horrible stuff. The coolent literally eats the head gasket. The starter clutches are weak also. The Kymco's use better coolant, and I'm sure a better starter clutch, if it's the same 250. Kymco QC is much better then all the chinese brands, so Kymco would of addressed these issues. The Honda version was damn near bullet proof and it's pretty much the same engine they use in the Znen. It's all about QC. Any of the carb certified bikes are gonna run majorly lean as well. The one I'm working on came stock with a 109 jet. It's running a 115 and it's still a little lean on the top end. It's gonna need a 120.
It sounds like Leo's bike has been jetted, and maybe even has a set of rollers in it.
Leo, can you take a pic of the stator cover of the case? (it's the exhaust side) I'm curious if it's the 250cc GY6 clone. It might even say GY6 on the side drain plug.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 13:29:01 GMT -5
I'm running 12 gram rollers in mine. If I was hanging on to it, I'd put 12 gram sliders in it. I have a set of 11 gram sliders, and while it made the bike really fun, MPG dropped to about 22 miles per gallon.... It was crazy fast in parking lots tho... and it didn't kill the top speed either... But I think I was just running too many rpm's and I was worried I'd blow her up. I ended up going back to the rollers. Keep in mind I am a 300lbs rider on a 10" wheeled scooter, so your milage may vary.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 13:23:50 GMT -5
I'm running a Kendra on the back of mine and man was it smoother then the stock tire. Huge difference.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 13:19:54 GMT -5
yeah, I'm in Sacramento. Too far to get together for a ride. The avatar pic, is of a Moto Brovo Hornet I rebuilt for a buddy. He took it on the freeway and dropped a valve, causing all sorts of nice things like holes in pistons and broken valves.. That was the shake down run after I rebuilt it.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 13:01:30 GMT -5
Basic mods I'd do the Buell, would be a front fairing, not full, but enough to make it nicer on the high way, a set of bars, and mirrors... The mirrors on the buell are just down right ugly. Then I want to paint the four pieces of plastic body on the bike.... I figure 200 for all the mods. And I'll keep the stock parts. Might do an exhaust later, only because, I'm sure the stock one will start to rot out. Probably a set of throw over bags.... I have some for my scooter but they of course don't fit right, but they do get the job done and I only paid 40 bucks for them.
what size is the Savage? 250?... I'm not a huge fan of the cruiser bikes, that's why the Honda Rebel isn't on my list. Forum support tho, is a huge plus. It's something the Ninja and Rebel both have, that the Buell does not.
Spandi, what part of Cali are you in?
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 11:38:26 GMT -5
There is an idea in my head where I cut and bend diamond plate steel/aluminum, then bolt these panels directly to the frame tubes. Or, if I had mega bucks - carbon fiber. I think it would be too heavy.... take the stock panels and have em wrapped with vinyl.... diamond plate or what ever...
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 11:31:56 GMT -5
It might have a set of weights.... Just curious about the engine in that bike... Is it a honda clone?
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 11:12:17 GMT -5
Spandi,
What jet are you running? This one is running a 115 and the pin in the slider is raised to the last notch, they had a 109 in it stock. It runs ok, but it's lean on the top end. I'm thinking about dropping the pin back down and trying a 120 jet in her. I too have replaced the front wheel bearings in the bike. The bike rides fairly nice but I'm still not impressed with it. The exhast bolts? Are you talking about the one's in the head? I'm not leaking there, just where the muffler slips on to the header pipe. And in case you are wondering, that worked loose on the first 100 mile ride we took with the bike on sunday. So I know it's not the exhaust leak making it run lean. Oh yeah, other things I've done for this bike. Changed the intake manifold, every vacuum line and fuel line in the bike. I really should flush the brakes too. It's still running that Chinese fish oil brake fluid.
Next on his list is, to have the valve stems replaced and a new front tire. The front end has a little rumble in it and we think it's the crappy tire (wheel bearings have been changed). I'm slowly convincing the guys to change out all their valve stems after I had one fail on my bike at 45 miles an hour. Yup, scary! The tire blew out completely and I managed to keep from dumping the bike.... but I don't recommend the experience... I'm just lucky it was the rear and not the front.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 11:00:14 GMT -5
The biggest problem with the Chinese single, clutch and gear bikes, is they are not all that common here, in California. models have to be carb certified before they will title them here. It really sucks and it really limits choices. The other factor, is like scooters, you have to be careful about registration. The penalties for overdue registration are very, harsh. You find a bike with registration out a couple of years and the registration can easily be 600 or 700 hundred to get it legal. You find lots of perfectly good bikes on craiglist being sold for parts because they are not worth registering.
Leo, I agree, the Blast could be a money pit real quick and I'm not sold on the Harley trans. The Buell is about brute force and the Ninja, for example is more finesse. The parts for Buell are available but you will have to sell your first born to afford them. Scootwin suggested a Honda Silver wing (not the scooter). He said they were pretty tame even tho they are 500's and 650's and I do like that particular bike but, they are a little harder to find and a little out of my price range at the moment, especially because I'd want the interstate model. The Buell and Ninja would both be good to take the california m1 test. The Ninja would be easier to re-sell then the Buell as well.
All I can say, is someone hurry up and buy my freakin bike.. .LOL I want ta go shoppin! If I do end up with the Buell, it will be interesting as one of my buddies has a Ninja 250, and it will be cool to see how they compare.
I really need to look at it as, this is a stepping stone bike. I really want a Connie, or even a goldwing but it's way too much bike for my skill set at this point. My dream garage is filling up quick! LOL
I'm still leaning toward the Buell, just for the plain funkyness and simplicity. I don't really care for the Honda Rebel, even tho, they are suppose to be a fine learning bike as well.
Another note: One thing I noticed about looking for Buell parts, is the harley dealer won't sell parts for re-sale, or in stock-able quantities. And that they don't sell to shops... I'm like, wow trying to protect your dealers, huh... I didn't like that. Especially as from what I've read in the forums, the dealers that service bikes really kinda treat the blast as an unwanted step child. That really just makes it to where I don't even wanna mess with upgrading to a Harley.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 10:19:25 GMT -5
----->BTW, what ever happened to your buddies Znen L-Roar you were working on? (and the infamous starter clutch) That bike has been like a house of cards. The PO really screwed it up. I know someone had messed with the starter clutch the second I pulled it apart. All the allen head bolts from the stator rotor to starter clutch were chewed up. I changed out the starter clutch, then I couldn't get it to keep a woodruff key... The bike would hit 4500rpm and then break the woodruff key, and I'd have to tear it down again. We then bought a new stator rotor, and that problem is fixed. I had to change the carb because it wouldn't idle. Did everything I could think of to get the carb right and it just wouldn't idle. The PO had the idle speed screw in all the way just to get it so it wouldn't die. Of course, that took out the freakin clutch. So, it has a new carb, new clutch.... I have to address the exhaust on it this weekend. It's leaking where the muffler slips on the pipe.. It's still a tad lean on the top end so I also need to get a new main jet for it. Other then that, it's running pretty decent now... We actually took it on a 100 mile ride last sunday. Something Steven could not of done before.... so all and all he's very happy now... And it's almost out of my garage... It's what happens when you buddy buys a basket case, cause it's a 250 and it looks nice...
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by: urbanmadness - Oct 25, 2013 0:56:18 GMT -5
Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 0:56:18 GMT -5
I'm not a pay pal fan either.
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 25, 2013 0:40:47 GMT -5
Wow. Sending a replacement, plus the extra whatsido, plus plus shipping. Can't fault them there. >'Kat what's the p/n for a whatsido and what model's does it fit? Can you get a high performance whatsido? Just having fun....
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