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Speedo vid
by: scooter - Nov 13, 2014 17:27:25 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Nov 13, 2014 17:27:25 GMT -5
If you want to spend a bit of time fussing with it, you can download Google Maps topographical data to Sketchup. Then you can zoom in to see the exact incline of any surface. I do this with property I'm interested in purchasing to build a cabin on, makes it so much easier to determine positioning, and what sort of views to expect. Thanks. I downloaded it. Care to elaborate on how to download topo data from google and use it in the sketch program? EDIT I tried using the ADD LOCATION feature but got a white box with buttons, a common error for which I have yet to find a solution. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 13, 2014 0:10:56 GMT -5
It's the Chinese clone of the Honda Helix. We had one member (who was a CF Moto dealer) ride with her husband from Long Island NY to Daytona Beach FL, on them. (after proper setup and pdi of course ) As for the rear wheel, just make sure it's speed rated for the highway. I use P rated. (good for up to 93mph) Thanks, Spandi! That's good to know! There is no way I'd take my 150 on a long drive. I'll definitely go with the P-rated tires on faster scoots. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 13, 2014 0:05:33 GMT -5
Welcome to the Moto Brotherhood. I've had mine up to 64 but that is not GPS. I rest my foot above the brake pedal. I try to stay far away from cars so I don't expect to need it very much. The steering is not an issue for me. I lean the bike instead of turning the handlebars, even at fairly slow speeds. Ya, 10" is pretty small. I'm trying to get a 50cc with 13" wheels, front and back! Thanks, Surfpick! On my own scooter it took me at least a month before I really started laying into the turns and trusting the tires not to slide or the bike not to fall over. I would really like to try this thing out for at least a few weeks and "get into it". I tried putting my foot above the pedal as you suggested. While my foot was hanging off quite a bit, I could try that on the road. If I did a little chopping and bending then I could get over half of my foot on the board beside the pedal. These scooter tires are so tiny! I guess when the swing arm is built into the engine then you have to keep the tires small or make the drive assembly really long and thicker. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 12, 2014 23:14:29 GMT -5
You might want to consider a Honda Reflex or its clone then. The Reflex has front and rear brakes on the handlebar, it has larger wheels (12" rear, 13" front), both brakes are disks, it has a 249 cc engine. Mine will do 65 mph at 7,000 rpm and 79 mph at red-line of 8,300 rpm measured on GPS. I do almost all freeway riding so the rpm's are almost always between 7,000 and 7,500. It still averages 68 mpg. I think the clone version actually has fuel injection which is an improvement over the Reflex's carburetor. That sounds good. 70 mph would be acceptable, and I guess so would 65, as long as it's at a cruising speed and not over working the bike. Dual disks are great. My 150 has dual disks and I can really appreciate that after riding one with front disk only. I can't even imagine dual drums if that other 150 scooter I rode was any indication of how a typical scooter drum brake works. Thanks for the advice! |
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Post by scooter on Nov 12, 2014 23:04:40 GMT -5
Being an old-school motorcycle guy, I had the opposite problem... Getting used to NOT using my foot for the rear brake... LOL! Now however, I actually DO prefer BOTH brakes being on the bars. I too prefer putting both feet down at a stop. However, the rear foot-brake is something I guess one could live with on a nice scoot at a good price. I think you could probably cure the stoplight problem pretty easily by adding a brake-light-switch to the front brake lever.
As Spandi said, the 10" rear wheel should not be a problem so long as you be SURE to have at least "P-rated" tires at both ends. Even though it would do near 80 mph, my old Kymco 250... You have a VERY nice, very classic scoot there!
Ride safe!Leo in Texas That's what makes it so funny. Six months ago I was looking at my first scooter, wondering how I would deal with a new and different system and now I've forgotten about the old one. heheh. Fortunately this one has a brake light switch on the hand brake. That's good to know about the tires. Worrying about a blowout on 2 wheels is not good. Your Kymco sounds sweet. 80 would definitely be more my speed. Thanks, Leo! |
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Post by scooter on Nov 12, 2014 2:16:27 GMT -5
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Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 23:24:05 GMT -5
The foot brake follows motorcycle convention where the right foot is for the rear brake. It made switching between the two a little more natural. It feels odd at first but you will get used to it, and if you ever move to a motorcycle it will make the transition a little easier. Many of the honda's were like that (even tho it's just a clone). I'd also be leary of the top speed on it. Many of these scooters can only do 60mph, even tho it is a 250. (don't trust the speedo in it, gps it to be sure) Also, on the 250's (244's), you want to change the coolant during PDI with coolant that DOES NOT contain Silica. The stuff that comes in them is horrid. HA! Thanks for the reminder about the brake. I've had several motorcycles but it's been a long time since I've ridden one. I am getting older and apparently senile too. I guess I just expect two hand levers. What a brain fart. Sometimes I wonder about myself.  On my bikes, I used engine braking the most, along with the front brake. The rear brake was mostly used as an assist to the engine braking. Having a clutch/engine-brake and a hand brake, or two hand brakes, seems a much better system than using a rear foot brake. This scooter's system seems dangerous to me. I realize the hand and foot thing is how most people learn to ride, but I didn't do it that way. Also, the ground is really slippery in the rain so I like to put both feet down and keep the bike as upright as possible. I don't want to be deciding between whether I want to get ready to put my feet down, or use the brake, when I stop. I need to take it out and ride it and see if I can live with the "no rear hand brake" system. If I decide to keep it, maybe I can modify the pedal to get it out of the way. Maybe I could even go crazy and add a left brake lever, but I doubt it. Thanks for the info about the top speed. It seems these scooters don't get much more speed even when adding a lot of CCs. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 16:41:56 GMT -5
Most people in colonial Pennsylvania were content to do their reading in a simple wooden chair. Ben Franklin, on the other hand, insisted on kicking back in a reading chair fitted with a foot-powered fan. If he needed to grab another book from a high shelf, he simply flipped up the seat of his specially engineered library chair, transforming it into a small step ladder. To check the time, he glanced at a bizarre one-handed clock of his own design that only used three gears to keep time. Franklin was clearly a man who never stopped inventing. Between running a print shop, engineering the U.S. postal system, starting America's first lending library, and helping sow the seeds of the American Revolution, Franklin also found time to draw up a vast collection of new devices. What's more, he never patented a single one. Although the decision likely cost him a fortune, Franklin saw his inventions as gifts to the public. "That, as we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously," he wrote in his autobiography. Pretty good for a bored-looking guy on the $100 bill. Franklin's inventions are all models of practicality. It's one thing for a team of engineers to design the Segway, but quite another for an elderly, 18th century man to think of throwing a set of stairs on a library chair. Most of the items in this list likely had fellow colonists slapping their foreheads and exclaiming, "Why didn't I think of that?" science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/famous-inventors/10-ben-franklin-inventions.htmThis man was a force of nature.  |
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Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 3:50:56 GMT -5
I have a 2008 Helix clone scooter here that says CFMoto on the plate, and says Qlink Commuter 250 on the users manual. The title says the make is a CFHG. It's a 244cc, so I guess I could have posted this in the other forum.   I like the low slung seating, the luxurious looking back rest, the HUGE top bag and rear trunk, plus it has a stereo system, and digital dash with temp sensor, but there are some things I DON'T like about it. For one thing the back brake is not on the handlebar, it's on the foot board, and right in the way of where I want to stretch out my legs. What a weird design, stupid even, inconvenient, and maybe unsafe in certain circumstances. I can squeeze my foot somewhat onto the floorboard, outboard of the pedal, but darn that's such a downer. If using regular brakes is like playing a guitar, this is more like playing drums.  Also, I think the tag said it takes a 10" rear tire. Is that even safe at 65 or 70 MPH?  I was only able to drive it around the parking lot. It cranks up super fast and seems quiet, smooth, and zippy. On the down side, turning the wheel to the far left and the far right causes a lever type action. You can feel the handlebars pulling to the sides due to the geometry of the steering system. It's much clunkier in low speed handling than my Titan 150 which zips around parking lots like I'm on roller blades.  The CF Moto / Qlink Commuter "250 cc" Honda Helix clone. What do you know about this bike? Is this a good quality bike? Is it more reliable than my Chinese Titan? Can I go on a 500 mile straight run on it? I'm considering trading up from my 150 Titan, but not sure yet. I want to trade up, but not to the wrong bike. |
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Speedo vid
by: scooter - Nov 11, 2014 1:55:33 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 1:55:33 GMT -5
Lol I should have watched the downhill vid before I posted it . I never would have posted it and called it a straight run lol . It's funny how the uphill video looks like a straight run but the down hill actually looks worse then what it really was . But I can't argue " going 73 in one direction crouched over " and 60 in the other " not crouched " tells it was not a straight run . I figured it would have been worse if I would have just pulled the video so I decided to just take what was coming . Lol . But that's all behind me know , I just want to show a good 10 mile run and how my scoot performs with the 58.5 and the bigger carb . I wouldn't be surprised if I hit closer to 68 + on a straight run . Have you considered putting a level on your bike?  No, seriously, it might work, but I wonder how accurate it would have to be to be useful in this case? Also, I wonder if you can find accurate Graphical Information System altitude data that would show if a road was level. I tried to zoom in on Adah, PA on www.pasda.psu.edu/mapping/default.asp but it didn't zoom in that far. I don't know if a GPS can give you that data but I assume a survey map would. If you can access survey data, you can find a good road to test on. Obviously this is an effort but if it means that much to you, I guess you have to do what it takes. Another way might be to find a flat looking place with mile markers, like the interstate. Time a run with a stopwatch between markers at top speed, going both ways and compare the results. |
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Speedo vid
by: scooter - Nov 11, 2014 1:51:27 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 1:51:27 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone else here has a speedo that is accurate ? I don't know about mine. I have had two people confirm my speed, when I asked them how fast I was going AFTER riding alongside them, and when the speed is, for instance, 55, I keep up when the speedo says 60, which is probably how fast everyone is going. My phone app reads slower, but I hear processing speed can affect readings. One day I'll have to find a way to get confirmation, or hook up my old "real" gps to my battery. It won't hold a charge any more. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 1:46:16 GMT -5
The p in the 1p39 means the engine has been modified in one way or another . Also the roller weights may not be the same causing one scoot to run a little higher rpms thus more power and better top end .  |
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Post by scooter on Nov 11, 2014 1:33:15 GMT -5
I'm currently looking into purchasing another scooter and came across this particular one that is for sale local to me. Does anyone know what this scooter is and what its possible specs are?  I don't know but I searched google for visually similar images and found this  If you get it, you might want to be careful where you point it. |
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Post by scooter on Nov 10, 2014 6:20:14 GMT -5
Thanks for taking the time... my airbox is the same with the same filter. I'll pop it open tonite after work... also do you happen to know where to find a replacement filter? I've been to a lot of online scooter parts and can only seem to find the round ones that attach to the carb. You might look at some of the dealers here on the site. You could also search ebay for "gy6 stock air filter". |
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Post by scooter on Nov 10, 2014 6:17:23 GMT -5
Is it EVER a good idea to trade in a scooter for a larger one? What should I expect? More power, more speed, and more fun if you don't wreck it. |
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