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Post by arguck on Aug 16, 2013 9:24:19 GMT -5
I know this thread is on the old side, but I still haven't gotten my poor scoot to give me any brake lights or electric start. I located the engines ground to the chassis and it appears to be solid. I found it under the seat, straight back from the solenoid. No wiggling or anything. Is there another ground I should be looking for? Do you guys know if the problem could lie in the electric start housing? Could that cause the brakes lights to fail? Remember I have tail lights, they just don't get brighter when I squeeze the brakes.
My previous mechanic has essentially bailed on me, making this extremely frustrating. If I can't get this fixed myself, I'm gonna have to find someone new who will no doubt be inexperienced with these little Chinese scoots and cost me plenty of dough. Any help at all is GREATLY appreciated.
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Post by arguck on Jun 21, 2013 15:08:18 GMT -5
[replyingto=scootnwinn]scootnwinn[/replyingto]Would anyone be able to tell me where the main ground is at? My mechanic said it was under the right foot board but the only thing I see there is some wires going into the gas tank. I assume I'm looking for a gaggle of green wires but can't seem to locate them. If anyone could tell me where they are at and what it looks like it sincerely appreciate it. Thanks!
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Post by arguck on Jun 20, 2013 10:46:01 GMT -5
[replyingto=scootnwinn]scootnwinn[/replyingto]Have any ideas of would it could be if I have 12V coming out of each brake and 12V at the solenoid?
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Post by arguck on Jun 20, 2013 8:56:49 GMT -5
[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]So it might not be the starter button at all then. Hmmmm.
Do you know the color of the wire that needs to be grounded when the button is pressed? Maybe I could somehow test that wire.
But that still doesn't explain why my brake lights aren't working. I would THINK the bike not starting and the brake lights not working would be correlated but maybe not? Could I be looking at two different issues here?
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Post by arguck on Jun 19, 2013 22:35:46 GMT -5
Thanks again alleyoop! Ok more info to share but I'm not sure I've found the problem yet. So I've got power at the solenoid wires, I've got power at the brake switch as well as each brake when squeezed. I THINK I've got power at the key switch considering everything lights up when I turn the key but maybe there is a certain wire I should be looking for?
One thing I can't seem to get power from is the start button. I've got a black wire coming from that bundle that seems to be a constant 12V but I can't seem to find a 12V signal from any of the other wires when I hit the start button.
So a few questions.
1. Do you know the color of the wire I should be getting a signal from when I press the start button?
2. So it would make sense if my start button was broken since the scoot won't — you know— start. But why wouldn't my brake lights be working? (to be clear, the lights themselves work but they don't get brighter when the brakes are applied)
Color me confused. Again any suggestions are much appreciated.
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Post by arguck on Jun 18, 2013 16:39:25 GMT -5
Sorry guys, Hope the newbie isn't being annoying!
Just curious if there is something else I can test in order to determine whether it's the switch, wiring or something else that might be causing my lack of brake lights. I do own a multimeter if that is a necessary too,l I just don't know what to look for/test. Thanks!
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Post by arguck on Jun 16, 2013 12:30:45 GMT -5
scootnwinn alleyoop AHHHHHHH I think we found an issue if not the issue. When I squeeze either brake neither of them light up the stop lights. I'm assuming those are the culprit. Do you folks know what I need to replace to get those fixed? Obviously I shouldn't be riding until this is taken care of.  Thanks for the continued assistance.
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Post by arguck on Jun 15, 2013 10:49:13 GMT -5
Hey guys, just curious if you saw reply #6 and if you have any ideas at all. Thanks so much!
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Post by arguck on Jun 13, 2013 20:25:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply ken! Unfortunately my scoot doesn't have a sidestand relay. She starts whether its up or down. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Post by arguck on Jun 13, 2013 19:33:19 GMT -5
You guys all rock. Very helpful. So I checked all connections and they are all tight with no corrosion at the battery or solenoid. I put a jumper between the solenoid points and she fired right up. No issues at all. Also when this happens there is usually no noise from the starter or solenoid at all. Like the button isn't doing a thing.
Does that help pin point things at all? Thanks so much for all the help!
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Post by arguck on Jun 13, 2013 16:21:06 GMT -5
Thanks so much for your reply. Please forgive my less than "weekend mechanic" knowledge, I might need just a little more help understanding your troubleshooting suggestion. I've seen the solenoid placed on the right side of my scooter placed under the seat. (At least I think I have, I've traced that wire before) As far as jumping the terminals, I thinking your asking my to essentially make a physical connection between the two metal points on the head of the solenoid. Can I just do that with any 12 gauge wire lying around? And then for the applying power to the trigger wire, my guess is that your saying to try to take power directly from the battery to the far side of the solenoid. Is ANY of this correct? Cause I could be WAY off.  Thanks so much. |
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Post by arguck on Jun 13, 2013 14:25:50 GMT -5
This has been happening for a few summers now, and it's driving me nuts.
The electric start on my 2008 150cc Lance Vintage will work for a month or so and then stop and be dead for a few weeks and then work again and then not. Sometimes I'll go screw around with some connections and it'll work again but usually it's just a waiting game. So I just get used to kick starting for a while.
The one constant that I DO seem to have is that if I accidentally hit the run switch to the off position and then turn it back to run, the electric start DEFINITELY won't work for a while.
I've dug around underneath the front panel a little bit found a connection that seemed to be loose but it's not doing anything and honestly I'm not even positive its the right connection to the starter, since all those wires are in a sleeve and I have no idea what comes from what.
I feel like that run switch HAS to be involved some how, but just don't know enough. Do you guys have ANY ideas at all? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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