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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 20:45:53 GMT -5
Funny thing is,
the scoot came without battery.
The battery compartment is under the seat, sealed in plastic, and the battery leads won't even reach that far; so now I'm gonna have to buy extensions.
I checked the fuse, but it's ok.
I think I'll have to spend another 5-6 hours peeling the plastics from the bike (those damn pieces of crap), and trace each wire!
In all honesty, chinese scooters are quite fun, except for the plastics, they never fit, especially if they have to be 'clicked' into each other!
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 13:15:39 GMT -5
so far all electronics work, except for the spark.
I just need to find the CDI...
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 13:14:33 GMT -5
Most of it seems to work. I'm trying to find the CDI. Could this be the CDI? If not, what is it? It's located just left top of the rear wheel, on the frame:   |
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 12:56:32 GMT -5
I just tested my spark on my Roketa MC-05-127, and I have none.
When I kickstart without battery, the instrument dashboard lights up, so the stator seems to work.
I have tried a brand new NKG spark plug and nothing...
What's next?
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 12:25:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies guys!
This Roketa MC-05-127 is not the ordinary 50cc scoot, that's for sure.
Can't get it to start. Exhaust fumes smell like gasoline
The valve on the left I think is the fuel valve. I connected the fuel filter to it.
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 3:46:46 GMT -5
onewheeldrive: Does that exist? Another one: I saw the fuel tank vacuum hose (to get rid of fuel gasses), also comes with a second plug. What's it for? (hose with white plug on top of fuel tank; should it be connected?) 
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 3:39:27 GMT -5
On picture below, The horizontal hose is the fuel hose, you can see the end of the fuel valve on the left. The vertical hose I don't know what it is. It's at the bottom of the carburetor. The end is cut off, goes to the ground (open air). It does not have any vacuum, or does not look like something is coming out of it.  On picture below, Behind the left screw, there's a black plastic pot, with 2 ends, one of them looks like it could be for a vacuum hose, however, there's nothing connected to it. What could it be?  |
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 1:33:54 GMT -5
Ok guys,
the bike arrived!
And it's not for the faint of heart!
A full review is on the way, with pics and everything, but if you cursed at your 50/150 or even 250cc scooter, you will not laugh at this one!
First of all, the reason the motorcycle is 799, is because nothing is done to it.
The motor, and frame, and a few side plating are done, but I had to connect fuel line, change hose clips, close carburetor (install the needle, which is piss difficult, if you don't want to remove the tupperware), blinkers, front headlight, both front and rear tire, gear pedal, brake pedal, center stand, side plastics, electrical connectors, handlebars, battery, etc...
On average, my TaoTao ATM50 took 2 hours to do.
The EVO150 took 3 hours to do.
And because of the lousy usermanual, and missing parts, this motorcycle took ~12 hours to do (that is with 2x small 30 minute brakes)
If anything, the crate is really fast to open. Nuts are welded on the frame, so just loosening the bolts with one device. Best crate opening experience ever! (done in 10 minutes)
A few things though:
- The suspension is absolutely subliminal, very soft, good for a 170LBS rider
- The materials used are of GOOD quality, comparable to Korean or Japanese bikes (save for the plastics)
- The mechanical parts are all very easy to do, take time, but work quite well.
- The usual plastic fenders and side plates do not fit the mounting holes. Always 1/4 to 1/2 in off.
- You can do it alone but it is curse work. At least the beginning, with the plastics. Once you do the mechanics, it's actually quite enjoyable
- The usermanual is very unclear and has errors, causing you to have to undo some work, and start over. Pictures are very unclear.
- A lot of things that need to be done, are not covered in the usermanual (like mounting the lollypop blinkers, and are very hard to do.
- You need to possess basic mechanic skills, know the difference between M5x12, M5x16, and M6x25; what bushings, bolts, nuts, and washers are, and how (hard) to tighten them; use Locktite on bolts (I use silicone glue) etc...
Impressions on the bike:
Well made, does not seem to need gear oil? (found only engine oil),
40T rear sprocket, minimum sprocket size would be just over 35T, so 36T30T would be the smallest possible sprocket you could install.
I could not yet find the airfilter
Does only come with a glove box which could host a few coke cans, GPS golves and wallet.
The dashboard actually could host a GPS easily! Love it!
The fuel gauge is digital (LEDs), beautiful!
LED's are hard to see in sunlight though; but well visible at night.
The exhaust gasket is a copper one. Exhaust bolts will fall off, so I had to go in my cave, to get some extra nuts to double nut them!
The valve adjustment will be a piece of cake! Very accessible!
Misses:
- Idle adjustment screw is not accessible, has to be done at the throttle, accessible via a hole in the side panel. The AF screw is hard to reach, plate needs to be drilled out, and screw adjusted with a sub- 4in in length flat screwdriver.
- Plastic plating require a lot of bolts to be removed, one plate is preventing another plate to be removed by itself; very annoying!
- Gas tank can't be removed, without removing the Battery rear storage compartment, which can't be removed without removing all rear tupperware, which can't be removed without removing ALL tupperware.
Sucks!
- The front grill is actually a plastic piece, making it look like the bike is watercooled (radiator), but it is not. It's just for show, as the bike is an air cooled, and the radiator is just a radiator shaped plastic.
- The bike missed a few bolts, washers, clips, and the battery (battery compartment is under front seat, under the gas tank).
Due to the battery missing, I could not test it other than plug a power adapter in, to see if it works, and it seems to. It just doesn't turn over.
Tried kick starting, but could not get it to work yet. (this due to a configured carb, set too lean).
- The usermanual points out on a hydraulic rear brake, however, the rear brake is actually a drum brake, mechanical, controlled by a metal bar connecting to the brake pedal, which is effective and better than a cable, and IMHO, better than hydraulics.
- The mirrors are threaded in the wrong way. Left threaded mirror supposed to be right, and right threaded mirror, left.
They did it reverse on this bike, causing if you're riding really fast, that your mirrors might come loose due to the wind. Also, they are virtually useless, as they offer a very small rear view window.
- Battery connectors where not long enough to reach battery compartment, yes they where, battery compartment is in center of bike, not rear.
- Idle adjustment screw hole is useless (no idle adjustment screw on this carburetor)
- Brake fluid looking glass is covered by plastics
- Gear pedal can gear up, but not gear down, or reverse. When gear pedal is set to work properly, the heel does not reach the gear down pedal. This due to the extreme motion (3 in either way) to shift gears.
- No under seat storage compartment (only battery, and fueltank) There's a tiny underseat compartment, like a glove box, or battery compartment, or airfilter sized box. Usermanual says under seat is helmet compartment, however there's just enough space to put your gloves, GPS and wallet in.
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Post by prodigit on May 23, 2013 1:16:04 GMT -5
My evo tops out at 63, and that bike is 100LBS heavier than the PX, while having the same engine.
Tell them to go to BP and get a full tank of premium gasoline. My EVO gained almost 10MPH with that gasoline over regular gasoline from another pump.
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Post by prodigit on May 22, 2013 8:19:53 GMT -5
DX (be your own person, don't copy others!)
We originally came to USA, the land of the free, not the land of the bureaucrats!
Do as you please, just as long as you know the consequences.
I ride without helmet on my 50cc, and love it.
On anything bigger than a 50cc, going faster than 40MPH, I think a helmet should be required.
I used to ride a bicycle as a kid all the time, had a few minor falls, and in those days we never wore helmets for anything different than a motorcycle (which was 90cc or up; now is >50cc).
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Post by prodigit on May 22, 2013 8:12:51 GMT -5
I've never done any valve adjustment on any of my scoots.
and I'm at 4500km on my ATM50, at 2,2k Mi on the BMS (and 600mi on the EVO150).
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Post by prodigit on May 21, 2013 22:16:07 GMT -5
I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything.
I'm just saying I ride like this, and it's possible, and I love it like this.
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Post by prodigit on May 21, 2013 22:14:01 GMT -5
The creamy color is also deceptive.
It's a mix between carbon (black) and white (from running lean).
You could get a creamy color from running lean with a rich pilot, or reverse.
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Post by prodigit on May 21, 2013 22:10:10 GMT -5
Just wondering if someone has one, and what their opinions of it are (and care to take a pic under the seat).
I think it's much like my evo, with lots of hoses and tubes, and splitters.
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Post by prodigit on May 21, 2013 21:33:17 GMT -5
If it happens on a cold engine it might be the enricher.
It has a specific fuel flow until the engine is hot enough.
If it happens all the time, it might be something in the cvt... I know on a cold engine my ATM50 tends to give this bogged down feeling, because the CVT rollers don't retract to the lower gears.
It usually goes away after 1 or 2 start-stops.
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