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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 12:22:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know where to find a bulb holder thing? I do not know exactly what it is called, but it is the plastic thing you put the headlight bulb into then you put the holder thing with the bulb installed in it into the headlight area and turn it to lock it in. Well, mine is all messed up, the metal terminal looking things keep sliding out and crossing each other. I'm having a hard time finding a replacement.
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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 14:18:06 GMT -5
Ugh now it wont start! I tried to start it today and it is acting weird. It won't start, it sounds like the starter motor is going very slow. The dash seems to dim a lot too and the fuel gauge goes down to 0 every time I press the start button then goes back up to full when I am not using the starter button.
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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 14:44:44 GMT -5
I may have found the problem, but unsure until I try a couple things out. I basically pulled out the wire for the batter-solenoid connection, and the wire itself sounds like it's all crinkly like as if you were smushing a plastic bag in your hand. Now I am no pro but I'm sure wires do not make noise. Also noticing what looks like burn marks on the outside, but if I wipe the wire off it looks mostly clean with some dents in it. I am unsure as to the gauge of the wire, I only have 12 and 18 right now, so I am going to attempt to hook it up with some 12 gauge and see if it starts. I already added an extra grounding wire to the starter motor and had no new results. Looking at the wire, it looks to be maybe 10 or 12 gauge itself (thw wire from battery to solenoid), the wire that connects the solenoid to the starter looks to be 14 or 16 gauge. Mind you I am just eyeing these out while holding my wire stripper next tot he wires to reference girth of wire core. My solenoid still looks nice, some minor rust, but I'll brush that off with a brass wire brush. Not sure if this is your problem but it sounds similar ramblinman maybe you can follow what I'm doing here and see if it works for you.
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 29, 2015 15:40:01 GMT -5
yep, sounds like your wires couldn't handle the load and burnt to a crisp. i took the plastic off my scoot today. couldn't find any markings so i'm not 100% sure what gauge wire but i think the battery wires are 8 or 10 gauge. i went to the store and bought 12 gauge earlier and i'm not even going to attempt to use that. good luck fixing your scoot. electrical issues are new to me but i'm guessing you will have the same problem again if you fix it with 12 gauge wire. i think i'm going to use 8.
edit: actually i think they might be closer to 6. i'm going to take a small piece with me when i go back to the store. i'll let you know when i figure out what gauge wire is on my scoot.
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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 17:42:57 GMT -5
yep, sounds like your wires couldn't handle the load and burnt to a crisp. i took the plastic off my scoot today. couldn't find any markings so i'm not 100% sure what gauge wire but i think the battery wires are 8 or 10 gauge. i went to the store and bought 12 gauge earlier and i'm not even going to attempt to use that. good luck fixing your scoot. electrical issues are new to me but i'm guessing you will have the same problem again if you fix it with 12 gauge wire. i think i'm going to use 8. edit: actually i think they might be closer to 6. i'm going to take a small piece with me when i go back to the store. i'll let you know when i figure out what gauge wire is on my scoot. so the battery to the solenoid is actually 12 gauge, which according to the amps/volt/gauge chart is right on. I had a spare positive wire to the starter from when I replaced my starter, it appears to be 16 gauge. I replaced those wires and it starts up with minimal effort. I literally don't have enough time to take my hand off the starter button before it starts if I try to tap the starter button now.
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 29, 2015 17:54:08 GMT -5
so the battery to the solenoid is actually 12 gauge, which according to the amps/volt/gauge chart is right on. I had a spare positive wire to the starter from when I replaced my starter, it appears to be 16 gauge. I replaced those wires and it starts up with minimal effort. I literally don't have enough time to take my hand off the starter button before it starts if I try to tap the starter button now. i'm new to electrical work... with that said the wire to the solenoid appears to be 8 gauge (maybe 6) on my scoot. i couldn't find any markings.
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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 17:56:41 GMT -5
so the battery to the solenoid is actually 12 gauge, which according to the amps/volt/gauge chart is right on. I had a spare positive wire to the starter from when I replaced my starter, it appears to be 16 gauge. I replaced those wires and it starts up with minimal effort. I literally don't have enough time to take my hand off the starter button before it starts if I try to tap the starter button now. i'm new to electrical work... with that said the wire to the solenoid appears to be 8 gauge (maybe 6) on my scoot. i couldn't find any markings. The lowest a wire on a scooter should go is 10, you aren't dealing with 300+amps, no need for 6 gauge. 10-12 gauge is the highest on a scooter, and the highest gauge is the starter.
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Post by lain on Mar 29, 2015 20:27:20 GMT -5
Rewired the starter, still good as above. Pewpew start with no effort~!
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Post by lain on Mar 30, 2015 13:33:54 GMT -5
So after rewiring the starter, I went for a ride last night. The lights were actually useful, not as bright as they were before, but useful nonetheless! Ontop of the easy starting and lights working better, the low end seems better and more responsive as well, very smooth.
I do not understand how rewiring the starter could have caused any of this except the easy starting. The starter isn't even in use after the scoot has been started so how did replacing the starter wires help with the lights and low end or am I just experiencing some more coincidental luck?
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 31, 2015 1:07:04 GMT -5
The old bad wires drained the battery due to greater resistance. The dimmer lights were due to battery charging. Easy starting means less battery drain, and less juice going to charge the battery, more available for your lights. Do you have a 6 pole stator?
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Post by lain on Mar 31, 2015 10:19:41 GMT -5
The old bad wires drained the battery due to greater resistance. The dimmer lights were due to battery charging. Easy starting means less battery drain, and less juice going to charge the battery, more available for your lights. Do you have a 6 pole stator? 8 pole. Since replacing my wires, it does seem like it is charging a little less, but it may just be I am using so much power and most of my trips are small 1 mile trips.
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