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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 1, 2017 15:23:43 GMT -5
Don't know of Allan Williams, but William Christopher's was always my fave MASH character.
A story about Singin' in the Rain, that Debbie Reynolds told. She couldn't really dance before that movie. She said Gene Kelly originally hated her, did NOT want her cast because of her inability to dance, and would work her over and over on every dance until her feet hurt so badly she would sit and cry. Glad everyone stuck at it 'cause it sure is one of those perfect gem of a movie.
>'Kat
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 1, 2017 17:01:30 GMT -5
Correct, Kat. I should have given Allan Copeland credit for the original composition. Hearing an orchestra perform the fanfare would be awesome.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 1, 2017 19:16:02 GMT -5
Closest I've come, 'bender, the Pride performed John Williams' Olympic Fanfare at our indoor concert. (well, we'd done it during the halftime shows too of course) Our director put the tubas in the balcony along the front row. Most of the trumpets lined the two side aisles, with I think four or so in front on the stage. Coolest thing I've heard. It helps me imagine what Common Man would sound like, performed that way. Heck, having four speakers around my bedroom also helps. Aw man, now I'm all yennin' to hear it again. I've got to go find my record and play it. I blame you 'bender for bringing it up.  >'Kat |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 1, 2017 22:20:20 GMT -5
Loved Fanfare for the Common Man by ELP. .. You are aware that this is technically a remake? Aaron Copland composed the original for full symphonic brass plus percussion. It's one of those songs where the percussion is treated like an actual section, rather than a background supplement to the wind instruments. >'Kat You could possibly thank Keith Emerson for that as when he would practice his classical piano for college Greg Lake and Carl Palmer would join in so for a gag they would throw some of that into their live performances which to their surprise was very well received so it became a regular feature. Here they are doing Coplands Hoedown: |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 1, 2017 22:31:40 GMT -5
Don't know of Allan Williams, but William Christopher's was always my fave MASH character. A story about Singin' in the Rain, that Debbie Reynolds told. She couldn't really dance before that movie. She said Gene Kelly originally hated her, did NOT want her cast because of her inability to dance, and would work her over and over on every dance until her feet hurt so badly she would sit and cry. Glad everyone stuck at it 'cause it sure is one of those perfect gem of a movie. >'Kat And Donald OConner was originally more of an acrobat but they both stuck with it and what came out is indeed a classic. I hate it when the play it on the late show and cut out parts like the elloquition lesson with the "Moses Supposes" bit. What Gene Kelly taught them really launched both their careers into new horizons and served them well for the rest of their lives. |
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Post by bandito2 on Jan 1, 2017 23:31:43 GMT -5
I read somewhere once that there was a meeting of some kind where Copland gave his
blessing on the arrangement. Keith was classically trained, so it seems no surprise to find
the progressive rock musician to infuse his music with a classical flavor. He also did an
arrangement of a piece by Gustav Holst from the Planets collection "Mars - The bringer of
war" and even the hymn "Jerusalem" that was a poem by William Blake with the music
written by Sir Hubert Parry in 1916. Arrangements of pieces from Pictures at an exhibition
originally by written Modest Mussorgsky were also parts of the ELP repertoire. There are
probably other classical arrangements written by others that they did, but those are the
first I can think of off the top of my head.
His own music was pretty good with a classical bent. "The Three Fates Clotho, Lachesis &
Atropos" comes to mind. One of my favorites is the more modern "Pirates" Help on lyrics
for that came from Pete Sinfield who helped on other songs by ELP.
Jeez, but they don't make music any more like they used to in the music world... it's mostly
just mindless glop. Like this for a recent example:
But of course that is what my parents said about the Beatles... sigh... I must be/already is
getting old.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 2, 2017 0:22:30 GMT -5
rocky, I hadn't known Donald O'Conner couldn't really dance before that movie, either.
While I naturally thoroughly enjoyed every Gene Kelly dance in Singin', I must say my total absolute fave is Make 'Em Laugh, esp when Donald runs up the walls and back flips over. My goodness, think about what good shape he had to be in to do that entire dance.
As for Hoedown, that one I very much prefer the original.
As for Silento's Watch It, don't forget we had songs like this--
--that probably were considered mindless glop back in the day.
(although I must admit I love that song still)
>'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Jan 2, 2017 7:52:29 GMT -5
A lot of actors (even those that thought they could dance) probably got some excellent schooling when Gene Kelly was involved. Some don't realize his continued involvement in film as director of such as "Hello Dolly".
Bing Crosby and Perry Como once commented on the lack of significance in modern music:
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 4, 2017 21:35:58 GMT -5
Forgot to mention that one of the marching bands in the Rose Bowl Parade played Fanfare for the Common Man. Director must have been an ELP fan.
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Post by spandi on Jan 6, 2017 7:24:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately as they say, "The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long" And NO remakes will change how great the originals were, in music or the golden age of Hollywood film. (Time to put on an old Clark Gable picture)
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 6, 2017 8:48:15 GMT -5
I had to miss the parade. Some folks work on Monday. Why couldn't they have held it Sat the 31st instead?  As for remakes, seems I've encountered a few that equaled or exceeded the originals. Can't think which right now (too soon after waking up). But I know there's been some. >'Kat |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 7, 2017 10:06:27 GMT -5
The broadcasters said the City of Pasadena has a "Never on Sunday" Ordinance for the parade, that dates back to pre-automobile days.I did not know that until this year, though I have watched the Rose parade all of my life.
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