Long trip  By  dans (Read 1,375 times)

Dans,

The cone filter might work (run well) but it will be trashed by the cat-back brace above the filter.  It must be a filter with flex to survive.  I'll see if I can find a pic of mine showing the filter better.

I tried EVERYTHING including a rubber hose between the carb and filter to place it more conveniently, but the engine would absolutely NOT run right with ANYTHING on the carb but the sock filter.  Even a plain piece of hose with NOTHING else ruined the running.

I'm an old Harley guy, and have never encountered anything like this, but these engines are much different from flatheads, pan-heads, etc. LOL!

Some will run fine with factory "tuba" intake and paper filter.  Some will run fine with a better filter on a hose, placing it better, and some (like yours and mine) won't run with ANYTHING on the carb but a free-flowing filter mounted directly on the carb.  Go figger...

Ride safe!

Leo

Dans,

Thanks... It REALLY does work, ESPECIALLY when it's over 100-degrees as it's been here for weeks. (Of course now I enjoy the "luxury" of a water-cooled scoot... LOL!)  I don't know if the scoop helps cool the stator, but I'm sure it must.  These scooters don't usually have an actual oil-cooler unless the owner adds one.

The scoops are readily available on eBay (I just checked) for around $10.  I first added just the scoop, which really does take only minutes.  I checked the oil temp (meat thermometer in the fill-hole) without the scoop and it was something around 200-degrees (long time ago, memory is dim).  Then I added the scoop and repeated my same ride.  The oil was only a few degrees cooler.

Then, I made my extension (from a piece of PVC pipe joint) and repeated the test.  THIS time the oil was a full 20-degrees cooler!  THAT is worthwhile.

The extension gets the scoop out in the wind.  Without it, the scoop is in the vortex of the lower plastics.

Those PVC pipes and fittings are off-white, and I simply wrapped it with chrome trim-tape to blend it with the scoop, and the aftermarket chrome fan-shroud.

Here are some pix from an old post...






The purple standoffs are made from knitting needles.  They could be aluminum tubing or brass, but they are needed to keep from stressing the little mounting tabs on the plastic scoop.  If you just used long screws, the scoop would crack and break in no time.  I ran this scoop for 6-years with no problems!

Getting the scoop "in the wind" makes a LOT of difference on really HOT days...

I could not find pix of my sock-filter and CDI.  Lost them in a long-forgotten computer crash, but those are pretty much "plug-'n-play" easy installations.

Hope this might help!  It's easier to do than it looks.  Just bring your scoop with you to the home improvement store to get the PVC piece the right diameter.  I do remember the pipe itself was too small diameter, and the female-to-female splice piece fit better.  I also shortened it some, as it was too long as-is.

Any questions, feel free to ask... That's what we're here for at "ItIsTheRide"...

Ride safe, and keep that oil cool!

Leo in Texas

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PS:  The chrome fan-shroud looks REALLY great on a GY6.  Ebay sells those too, sometimes as a "kit" with the scoop.  However, they are BRITTLE STYRENE as opposed to the flexible plastic found on the black originals.  I had to be VERY careful not to crack it.

If you keep your black original shroud, it might look good to paint the extension dull-black instead of using the chrome tape.  It's all personal preference...

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PPS:  Since you're fairly new to the site, here's a pic of my all-time favorite ride.  It was many decades ago, when I was 16.  I'll turn 70 in October...  How the mighty have fallen... LOLOLOL!  "Old Blue" pictured below was an ANIMAL!  Good Lord, how I loved that old Hog...  Too old and arthritic nowadays for such rides...  I'm mighty happy scooters have come so far since 1962!



I was sixteen in that pic...  Only photo of "Old Blue" and me that exists.  I was 6'2" and 375 pounds then.  Today, I'm 6'1" from compressed disks in my back from riding Old Blue.  And a more "human" 230 pounds...  Times change... I had the price of TWO nice houses in that bike, and made it ALL back with interest street-racing in one season... Yes, times change...

Dans,

I haven't checked, but usually the scoops come with the mesh installed.  I got a chrome one with red anodized mesh to match up with the scooter.  It's not really necessary, but is there because many riders cut out the stone-guard from the fan shroud.  I did not, as it doesn't really cut the air flow much.

I just checked eBay, and you are right!  I guess the screens weren't popular...  You could easily get a piece of wire-mesh and cut it to a circle to fit inside, and paint it bright yellow, red, blue or flat-black, etc. to suit your taste, and keep it in place with a bead of silicone caulk.  That's how my scoop was made from the factory.

As for "Old Blue", I only WISH I still had that magnificent old Hog...  No, I sold it back around 1966.  Only memories left.

I just got a new front tire on my Kymco.  The old one "decomposed" after only 1 1/2 seasons!  Turned out it was an "antique" when installed...  Something to remember: Check the date on any tire you install.  They don't last forever!  Safety first.

Finally had a dry day in the middle of weeks of rain, and I got the old mouse out for a ride on the new tire.  I'd almost forgotten how much fun "knuckles-in-the-wind" can be!

Ride safe, and remember that the scoop will help some directly on the fan-cover, but for REAL (20-degree) oil-cooling, you will need to extend it out past the plastic and into the air...

Leo