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Post by mikestib1 on Nov 4, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5
Can buy a new 2012 for $3400 plus tax and tags. Just bought a Wolf 150 which is a bit disappointing but willing to sell it at a loss. Still learning but I'm addicted the 300 should be all I need, not interested in the Goldwings type luxo scooters. Seems like the Kymco is a a great deal for the tech, quality and performance from in town to
2 up and even the 65mph highways. Any advice appreciated. It will also replace my 500 pound Triumph. At age 65 it's time to ditch overweight classics
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Post by nulldevice on Nov 4, 2015 19:02:36 GMT -5
Can buy a new 2012 for $3400 plus tax and tags. Just bought a Wolf 150 which is a bit disappointing but willing to sell it at a loss. Still learning but I'm addicted the 300 should be all I need, not interested in the Goldwings type luxo scooters. Seems like the Kymco is a a great deal for the tech, quality and performance from in town to 2 up and even the 65mph highways. Any advice appreciated. It will also replace my 500 pound Triumph. At age 65 it's time to ditch overweight classics Think about a used 400cc Majesty or Burgman instead. You can find ridiculously low mileage ones for about that much. I just bought my 2012 Majesty 400 for about $3500 plus tax, tags, and title with about 2100 miles on it. I'm a big fellow, over 300 pounds and over 6 ft tall. About as much load as two average size people. I went with a 400cc scooter for the following reasons, and I'm glad I did. 1. A 300 cc motor isn't that much bigger than a 250cc motor. 2. Many highways have higher speed limits than 65 MPH 3. Most of the time the actual traffic speed is five to fifteen MPH faster than the speed limit. 4. Head winds are a fact of life. 5. Up hill grades are too. 6. If you aren't into doing your own wrenching they have a large, long established nation wide dealership network and parts distribution system. The only clinker is the 400cc machines weigh close to 500 pounds, but the over 70 contingent of the A C W Scooter Club seem to have no problems handling their maxi scooters. Ask the dealer to let you move one around and see how it works for you. 500 pound classic Triumph? What are you calling a classic Triumph? A 1970 Bonneville weighed 363 pounds. Replace the battery with a few large capacitors in parallel (the vibration ate batteries) and it would weigh less than 350 pounds. www.classic-british-motorcycles.com/1970-triumph-bonneville.html |
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Post by floridagull on Nov 4, 2015 21:14:12 GMT -5
"Just bought a Wolf 150 which is a bit disappointing ..."  I am researching 150cc scoots now - may I ask which Wolf 150 you have, and in what way(s) you find it to be disappointing? Thanks! |
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Post by SylvreKat on Nov 4, 2015 22:19:39 GMT -5
Looked it up--that's a pretty bike. New-new was $5400, so a good deal there. 16" wheels means it should easily handle highway speeds, although interstate might be scary. Probably depends on you. My 200cc supposedly can hit 70something. I take Piaggio's word for that. I would think with 100cc's more, and the same size tires, you should max even faster.
Leo will tell you that flat floorboard is the best. He totally lurves his. And it handles the highway pretty decently despite (I think) 13" wheels and less cc.
Just make sure if it's at a dealership that they put in fresh fluids and battery. Mine's a 2005 which I bought new in 2007 (when they moved locations, they discovered some unopened crates in the back with surprise! scooters inside). They fixed it up with fresh everything, and he's been a good bike since. Battery just now has developed a bad cell.
I say go for it if you can afford it! And then post pics. And tell us all about it. And how much happier you are with it.
>'Kat
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Post by spandi on Nov 5, 2015 0:19:51 GMT -5
Nice ride.   |
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Post by rockynv on Nov 5, 2015 1:33:05 GMT -5
You might be able to get into a used BV500 for less and those are 100+ mph capable machines and very capable of Interstate travel. My Aprilia Sport City 250 which uses the Piaggio engine has seen almost 30,000 miles of daily commuting over 50 mph and a number of long day trips cruising the interstates at over 75 mph and is still going strong, The Kymco People 300 taps out at  mph according to reviewers which is less than my 250 that on a flat road will go substantially faster. The Kymco 500 Exciting, Piaggio BV500, Aprilia Scarabeo 500, Burgman 400 or Majesty 400 should be available used for similar to less than the People 300 and have plenty of reserve capacity for Interstate travel. I am partial to the Aprilia due to the twin disk brakes up front which are the same as used on up to their 850cc Sport Bikes. If you are going to make them go fast then you need to provide stellar brakes to stop them from the higher speeds that they are capable of. Also the Aprilia Scooters 250cc and above have over 460 lbs rider/passenger capacity on bikes in the 326 to 390 lb range of curb weights. Be mindful that the People 300, Sport City 250, Scarabeo 500 and BV500 are all tall riders with 31/32 inch seat heights and can be a bit too much of a reach for riders with less than a 34 inch inseam. |
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Post by JerryScript on Nov 5, 2015 3:21:45 GMT -5
Nice ride. Swap out a few body panels, and it's the same as my Znen ZN150T-18, the blue scooter in my sig below with 16" wheels. Makes me wonder how big I could swap up to and still fit the engine in my frame!? |
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Post by spandi on Nov 5, 2015 7:29:36 GMT -5
Nice ride. Swap out a few body panels, and it's the same as my Znen ZN150T-18, the blue scooter in my sig below with 16" wheels. Makes me wonder how big I could swap up to and still fit the engine in my frame!? Znen probably got the "idea" for the Pacifica from Kymco. (Planning an engine swap?) |
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Post by SylvreKat on Nov 5, 2015 8:55:16 GMT -5
Couple things, rocky.
1--how much do most of those 500cc bikes you mentioned weigh? 'Cause it sounds like bike-weight is a concern for mike.
2 (and something I've always wondered)--what makes your 250cc Appy so fast? You've posted before how you'll look down and be going well into the 80s without realizing it. It can't just be the bigger wheels, although I know that matters. My dealer once blew off a pair of Vespissers' attitude towards me by telling me their Vespa might be 250cc but couldn't go as fast as my 200cc with his 16" wheels.
>'Kat
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Post by spandi on Nov 5, 2015 10:53:32 GMT -5
Couple things, rocky. 1--how much do most of those 500cc bikes you mentioned weigh? 'Cause it sounds like bike-weight is a concern for mike. 2 (and something I've always wondered)--what makes your 250cc Appy so fast? You've posted before how you'll look down and be going well into the 80s without realizing it. It can't just be the bigger wheels, although I know that matters. My dealer once blew off a pair of Vespissers' attitude towards me by telling me their Vespa might be 250cc but couldn't go as fast as my 200cc with his 16" wheels. |
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Post by mikestib1 on Nov 5, 2015 11:03:47 GMT -5
It's a 2014 900 Scrambler, not a 70's bike.
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Post by mikestib1 on Nov 5, 2015 11:12:11 GMT -5
"Just bought a Wolf 150 which is a bit disappointing ..." I am researching 150cc scoots now - may I ask which Wolf 150 you have, and in what way(s) you find it to be disappointing? Thanks! It takes 10 minutes to warm up if the temp is below 60. Mixture to lean also the horn button quit after 3 weeks. Guess I'll be going back to the dealer as he needs to drill out the mixture screw plug and fix the horn. Had no such trouble with the Bintelli. All Znen scooters are not equally sorted out. From my experience I'd go for a Bintelli Scorch 150. Both cost $1499 |
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Post by floridagull on Nov 5, 2015 12:00:12 GMT -5
All the Wolf 150's list a weight capacity of 331 pounds - the Bintelli's state 300 or 320 pounds...
Which Wolf model did you get?
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Post by mikestib1 on Nov 5, 2015 13:26:14 GMT -5
Can buy a new 2012 for $3400 plus tax and tags. Just bought a Wolf 150 which is a bit disappointing but willing to sell it at a loss. Still learning but I'm addicted the 300 should be all I need, not interested in the Goldwings type luxo scooters. Seems like the Kymco is a a great deal for the tech, quality and performance from in town to 2 up and even the 65mph highways. Any advice appreciated. It will also replace my 500 pound Triumph. At age 65 it's time to ditch overweight classics Think about a used 400cc Majesty or Burgman instead. You can find ridiculously low mileage ones for about that much. I just bought my 2012 Majesty 400 for about $3500 plus tax, tags, and title with about 2100 miles on it. I'm a big fellow, over 300 pounds and over 6 ft tall. About as much load as two average size people. I went with a 400cc scooter for the following reasons, and I'm glad I did. 1. A 300 cc motor isn't that much bigger than a 250cc motor. 2. Many highways have higher speed limits than 65 MPH 3. Most of the time the actual traffic speed is five to fifteen MPH faster than the speed limit. 4. Head winds are a fact of life. 5. Up hill grades are too. 6. If you aren't into doing your own wrenching they have a large, long established nation wide dealership network and parts distribution system. The only clinker is the 400cc machines weigh close to 500 pounds, but the over 70 contingent of the A C W Scooter Club seem to have no problems handling their maxi scooters. Ask the dealer to let you move one around and see how it works for you. 500 pound classic Triumph? What are you calling a classic Triumph? A 1970 Bonneville weighed 363 pounds. Replace the battery with a few large capacitors in parallel (the vibration ate batteries) and it would weigh less than 350 pounds. www.classic-british-motorcycles.com/1970-triumph-bonneville.html |
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Post by mikestib1 on Nov 5, 2015 13:35:25 GMT -5
All the used scooters for sale used in my area are 49cc. If I wanted a 500 pound scooter I'd rather keep my 500 pound Scrambler. I live in a small city with some nice country roads. The Kymco is rated at 29 hp and reviewers say it will do 80. Dry weight is 364 . The main by pass 4 later has a 60 mph limit.
Anyone want to buy my 150 Wolf Blaze for $1100 in Roanoke Va
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mph according to reviewers which is less than my 250 that on a flat road will go substantially faster. The Kymco 500 Exciting, Piaggio BV500, Aprilia Scarabeo 500, Burgman 400 or Majesty 400 should be available used for similar to less than the People 300 and have plenty of reserve capacity for Interstate travel.
