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Post by mftic on Aug 18, 2015 21:21:58 GMT -5
Been riding for almost 5 weeks straight. Knew i had more work to do but kept putting it off. It is time now and I could use a little help. First the fuel float thingy disintegrated. Took a long time to get it out as it just kept breaking apart.  Electronics still work. Is it possible to just order the float or do i need to order the whole sending unit?  Next is the vacuum petcock. I'd prefer to get rid of it alltogether as i have a manual one ready to install. Didn't someone figure out how to do that? If not i guess i would like to order the entire assembly.  Looks like crap taken apart. I also already have a fuel filter to install so don't mind getting rid of this.  And a picture of a pile of plastics just becuase  |
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Fuel problems
by: JoeyBee - Aug 18, 2015 21:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by JoeyBee on Aug 18, 2015 21:34:58 GMT -5
As for the carb, check scrapys or Amazon. I have seen carb rebuild kits on both. It will come with a new float and several other prices to keep as spares.
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Post by mftic on Aug 19, 2015 20:50:45 GMT -5
Decided to just replace the broken bits. It was hard keeping my order to a bare minimum with all the cool stuff scrappy has. So fuel level gauge and vacuum petcock ordered. Would have liked to just have a nipple on the tank for a hose, maybe next time.
*Carb is no problem to clean, probably just has a clogged jet.
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Fuel problems
by: JerryScript - Aug 21, 2015 0:04:12 GMT -5
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Post by JerryScript on Aug 21, 2015 0:04:12 GMT -5
I've often wondered if the float could be replaced with a ping pong ball. If mine goes bad, I'm going to experiment!
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Post by scooter on Aug 21, 2015 0:14:43 GMT -5
I've often wondered if the float could be replaced with a ping pong ball. If mine goes bad, I'm going to experiment! I got lucky and saw a dead fuel unit on the table at a scooter shop. I asked for it, and I received, for free. |
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Post by mftic on Aug 21, 2015 9:07:15 GMT -5
Grrr...
Decided to finally replace the hoses since it's all taken apart. Of course there are 3 different sizes and I only have 2. Bought 3 different size clamps over the last few months and NONE of them are the correct size.
Now I have to go and do research to decide if I really want to remove all the emissions stuff. I am NOT going to change the carb nor "tune" it, so maybe i shouldn't mess with any of the other stuff?
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Post by lain on Aug 21, 2015 10:16:26 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you tune your carb? You're already dismantling it and replacing parts, might as well tune it so it runs really good instead of "just running"
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Post by horace on Aug 21, 2015 20:26:10 GMT -5
Pull off the emissions stuff. Then go from there. JMHO
I maybe VERY wrong here but, from the pics provided,
it looks more like the Fuel level indicator inside the gas tank not the carb float bowl pieces. Please correct my misinformation.
As for the Pet Cock ( I still laugh ) you can easily replace the (unit) or go manual........
Sorry for the bad jokes and possible misinformation.
GOOD LUCK MFTIC and keep us updated.
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Post by hillbillybob on Aug 22, 2015 4:15:05 GMT -5
Have to agree with horace about the emissions system....get rid of it. Those of us in the know, complete that task as part of the PDI.
Now, about those hose clamps....If your hose is the proper size, and fits the nipple as it should, you can use the small plastic zip ties, in place of clamps. They will keep your hoses attached just fine.
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Fuel problems
by: mftic - Aug 24, 2015 20:34:20 GMT -5
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Post by mftic on Aug 24, 2015 20:34:20 GMT -5
Yes it was the fuel level indicator. No idea what I said before..lol. Received the wrong part but the correct one should be here tomorrow.
Hose clamps, yep using zipties. Amazon recommended some nice looking clamps to go with the fuel line...wrong size. Then I bought some smaller ones because I liked the design. Turned out to be too small.
This is a low budget project scoot that I would like to ride for about a year then sell. It's nothing I really want to keep so don't want to put any money into it that I don't have to.
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Fuel problems
by: geh3333 - Aug 25, 2015 6:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Aug 25, 2015 6:08:48 GMT -5
That's exactly what happened to my fuel float. It was broken and disintegrated.
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Post by mftic on Aug 28, 2015 7:51:44 GMT -5
Last update just for horace and lain. Got it all put back together. Put 5 panels of plastics on before I realized I had forgotten to hook up all the rear lights.  As I'm hooking up the lights i GUESSED which was left and right. Still haven't checked to see if i'm right but I had a  % chance of being correct. Frustrated with the hoses for sure. Sucks when you have to use 2 zip ties to make sure the fuel does not leak. Replaced 2 air hoses and actually had to melt the end to get it pliable enough to slip over the connector. I'm actually a tiny bit embarrassed that when I went to put the seat back on the charcoal canister was in the way. Spent more time messing with that than anything else. There is a good chance I will remove it next time I have to take the seat off and get in there. EDit- O' and how stupid is the fuel float that reads 1/4 tank when it's about 3/4. Pretty useless. Both my scoots do this. *There have been a few PDI posts but one stands out. Guy actually supplied links to where/which hoses and stuff to buy. Wish i could find that. |
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Post by lain on Aug 28, 2015 10:57:03 GMT -5
If in doubt, eliminate all that is not necessary. I personally do not have a single vacuum line, I have eliminated everything and replaced a few things to make things much simpler and work more efficiently. I took out all the environmental crud, replaced the vacuum fuel petcock with a manual one, replaced the carb with a keihin that does not need vacuum line, replaced the old box air filter with a UNI filter... It is much simpler, only hose I have is for the fuel to go to the inline fuel filter and to the carb, and one hose from the valve cover of the engine to the rear.
Remove the fuel sensor unit and move it up and down to check to make sure it CAN read the full range. If it can it is most likely a tad too tight where the floater lever connects to the unit, or it is sticky. If it does not read the full range then replace it, or just check visually when you think you may be low.
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Post by horace on Aug 28, 2015 14:36:54 GMT -5
Rule of thumb---- Open the gas cap and look at the fuel level.... You may need a flashlight ( not a lighter or matches  ) Good Luck Brother!!!!! Stay safe out there!!!!!! |
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Post by scooter on Aug 28, 2015 15:44:20 GMT -5
Last update just for horace and lain. EDit- O' and how stupid is the fuel float that reads 1/4 tank when it's about 3/4. Pretty useless. Both my scoots do this. . That fuel sender is an easy fix. Take out the sender and bend the float wire until it reads what you want. Videos available here and on youtube. #fixscooterfuelgauge If your float is damaged, you might ask your local scooter dealer for a float off of a bad unit. You can buy the whole sender with float on ebay for about $15 I think. |
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