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Post by lain on May 28, 2015 22:37:44 GMT -5
I'm having huge difficulty getting a 120/70-10 tire on the rim. I spent 3 hours and scraped up my hands bad getting it off because I was trying not to dent the aluminum rim. I do not have tire irons, I have been heating up the tires with hot water and using axel rods in place of tire irons with good success on regular 3.5-10 tires, but it does not work half as well on the 120/70-10. I need to get this scooter back to my friend tomorrow, not looking to spend money on spoons/irons. What else works well?
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Post by keikara on May 28, 2015 23:18:26 GMT -5
put a little dish soap in the water to help your "tire irons" to slide a little better.
and use a washcloth or something to put it right on the bead.
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Post by lain on May 28, 2015 23:20:48 GMT -5
put a little dish soap in the water to help your "tire irons" to slide a little better. I tried dish soap and vasoline. : ( I may have also just been exhausted from getting the other tire off, but it was me and my friend. |
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Post by keikara on May 28, 2015 23:23:02 GMT -5
only other thing I could think of is use long flat tip screwdrivers, they may not be as wide as the axle and work like the tire irons a little better.
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Post by keikara on May 28, 2015 23:23:59 GMT -5
I got lucky when I changed my tires, my dad has a set of tire spoons from when he went to MMI for Harley mechanics lol.
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Post by lain on May 28, 2015 23:27:01 GMT -5
only other thing I could think of is use long flat tip screwdrivers, they may not be as wide as the axle and work like the tire irons a little better. Sounds like an obvious idea I overlooked from exhaustion. This is why I post lol. Any ideas to protect the rim from metal tools? I protected the rim by getting the tire off by rotating the axel so it would slowly but surely get it off. Does not work to get it on. These 120/70 tires are a lot more firm than my 3.5 tires. |
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Post by geh3333 on May 29, 2015 0:17:16 GMT -5
only other thing I could think of is use long flat tip screwdrivers, they may not be as wide as the axle and work like the tire irons a little better. Sounds like an obvious idea I overlooked from exhaustion. This is why I post lol. Any ideas to protect the rim from metal tools? I protected the rim by getting the tire off by rotating the axel so it would slowly but surely get it off. Does not work to get it on. These 120/70 tires are a lot more firm than my 3.5 tires. I stuck my whole 13 inch rim in my freezer for 30 mins and left the tire bake in the hot sun. I also used a little grease around the bead, and that was the easiest I ever got the tires on ! I also just had screw drivers and a sledge hammer. Once you get one side on , try to keep it " the side that's on " up high in the rim " while the rim is lying on the ground. I put something under the tire so it could not fall down in the rim . I forget what I use. This will give u more tire room to stretch over the rim. If you put something under the tire , just hold up one side , opposite of where u are trying to push the tire over the rim . after you start getting the second side over the rim , use a sledge hammer to slowly pound the tire on. Hit the tire close to the bead, right next to the rim . just don't hit the rim , lol. |
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Post by keikara on May 29, 2015 0:18:39 GMT -5
If you have an old inner tube or something similar, try to wrap the shaft with rubber, or something and then lube so it will slide may work for ya.
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Post by lain on May 29, 2015 8:22:00 GMT -5
Sounds like an obvious idea I overlooked from exhaustion. This is why I post lol. Any ideas to protect the rim from metal tools? I protected the rim by getting the tire off by rotating the axel so it would slowly but surely get it off. Does not work to get it on. These 120/70 tires are a lot more firm than my 3.5 tires. I stuck my whole 13 inch rim in my freezer for 30 mins and left the tire bake in the hot sun. I also used a little grease around the bead, and that was the easiest I ever got the tires on ! I also just had screw drivers and a sledge hammer. Once you get one side on , try to keep it " the side that's on " up high in the rim " while the rim is lying on the ground. I put something under the tire so it could not fall down in the rim . I forget what I use. This will give u more tire room to stretch over the rim. If you put something under the tire , just hold up one side , opposite of where u are trying to push the tire over the rim . after you start getting the second side over the rim , use a sledge hammer to slowly pound the tire on. Hit the tire close to the bead, right next to the rim . just don't hit the rim , lol. Amazing! I froze the rim for an hour, heated up the tire with hot water, there was still vasoline on the beads from yesterday so I pretty much just popped the tire right on after positioning it right. I oly needed to flip the bead over the rim in a couple spots, otherwise I was using my body weight to push it down with my knees on the tire and a bottle of water under the tire to keep it in position. |
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Post by steve on May 29, 2015 9:12:27 GMT -5
Harbor freight sells a tire thingy(that is the technical term, LOL), that works on tires up to around 12" for like $30, maybe less. I am going to buy one when I have to replace my tires.
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Post by geh3333 on May 29, 2015 11:25:37 GMT -5
I stuck my whole 13 inch rim in my freezer for 30 mins and left the tire bake in the hot sun. I also used a little grease around the bead, and that was the easiest I ever got the tires on ! I also just had screw drivers and a sledge hammer. Once you get one side on , try to keep it " the side that's on " up high in the rim " while the rim is lying on the ground. I put something under the tire so it could not fall down in the rim . I forget what I use. This will give u more tire room to stretch over the rim. If you put something under the tire , just hold up one side , opposite of where u are trying to push the tire over the rim . after you start getting the second side over the rim , use a sledge hammer to slowly pound the tire on. Hit the tire close to the bead, right next to the rim . just don't hit the rim , lol. Amazing! I froze the rim for an hour, heated up the tire with hot water, there was still vasoline on the beads from yesterday so I pretty much just popped the tire right on after positioning it right. I oly needed to flip the bead over the rim in a couple spots, otherwise I was using my body weight to push it down with my knees on the tire and a bottle of water under the tire to keep it in position. Lol, its something how much easier it is after doing it that way. I remembered how hard it was to get the tires on the first time I bought tires , so I decided I'd see if freezing the rim would help. Its sounds sorta ridiculous placing the rim in the freezer , lol, but I guess it shrinks just enough to make the job a little easier. Actually the first time I bought tires , I couldn't get them on and had the moto shop do it for me . but last time I didn't want to pay the cash to have them put on so I tried that. And it worked ! |
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Post by lain on May 29, 2015 13:07:03 GMT -5
I was lucky to find space for the 10 inch rim, we have a standup 2 door side-by-side fridge/freezer and the freezer is only 10 inches wide. I had to wedge it in ontop of some ice cream lol
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Post by geh3333 on May 29, 2015 13:12:33 GMT -5
I was lucky to find space for the 10 inch rim, we have a standup 2 door side-by-side fridge/freezer and the freezer is only 10 inches wide. I had to wedge it in ontop of some ice cream lol I'll take a piece of that 10" rim with some ice cream . |
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Post by skootn4fun on May 30, 2015 17:23:10 GMT -5
I watched a few videos on youtube of changing motorcycle and scooter tires using ZIP TIES. I did it personally afterwards with good results. Check it out.
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