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Post by lain on May 20, 2015 23:18:58 GMT -5
I got a new engine from ebay, not knowing it was AC fired beforehand and needing the DC fired setup now. The scooter is already wired for DC and has good working electrical parts and all. Can I simply swap the stator from the ebay engine to the dc stator from the old engine to do the conversion?
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Post by geh3333 on May 20, 2015 23:50:54 GMT -5
I got a new engine from ebay, not knowing it was AC fired beforehand and needing the DC fired setup now. The scooter is already wired for DC and has good working electrical parts and all. Can I simply swap the stator from the ebay engine to the dc stator from the old engine to do the conversion? Aren't all the stators for these scoots ac ? With a DC scoot , the cdi is powered from the battery and the headlights if I'm not mistaken are DC . I believe its the wiring , the regulator and the cdi which are different not the actual stator. I could be wrong. |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 20, 2015 23:55:22 GMT -5
I got a new engine from ebay, not knowing it was AC fired beforehand and needing the DC fired setup now. The scooter is already wired for DC and has good working electrical parts and all. Can I simply swap the stator from the ebay engine to the dc stator from the old engine to do the conversion? Perhaps you should keep this in one thread so things don't get confusing. In the other thread you said you need everything A/C. The Harness I have is for an A/C setup. -------------- *To answer this current question, Yes if you meet the following requirements -- Stator/Flywheel
- Regulator/Rectifer
- CDI
If you have a D/C harness, and the three components I listed above, yes, you can use the D/C harness. You must use the matching/corresponding components: Stator-CDI-R/R (the three should be considered an assembly, instead of separate components)
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On a side note; There's a million ways to "jury rig" when it comes to wiring and really you don't even always need to use GY6 specific parts... What I'm giving advice on is to keep it "stock". |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 21, 2015 0:00:22 GMT -5
Aren't all the stators for these scoots ac ? No. They all produce A/C current but they receive the label A/C or D/C to identify what R/R and CDI works with them... In addition, the A/C or D/C indicates if it has a pole solely dedicated to the CDI or if the CDI is powered from the battery. But this is where the confusion comes from... So, in short: Yes, they all produce A/C, but they also are called A/C or D/C to designate the firing method.  |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 21, 2015 0:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on May 21, 2015 0:05:48 GMT -5
Aren't all the stators for these scoots ac ? No. They all produce A/C current but they receive the label A/C or D/C to identify what R/R and CDI works with them... In addition, the A/C or D/C indicates if it has a pole solely dedicated to the battery or CDI. But this is where the confusion comes from... So, in short: Yes, they all produce A/C, but they also are called A/C or D/C to designate the firing method. OK, so the connections coming from the stator used for a DC setup will be different right ? |
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Post by lain on May 21, 2015 0:09:33 GMT -5
I got a new engine from ebay, not knowing it was AC fired beforehand and needing the DC fired setup now. The scooter is already wired for DC and has good working electrical parts and all. Can I simply swap the stator from the ebay engine to the dc stator from the old engine to do the conversion? Perhaps you should keep this in one thread so things don't get confusing. In the other thread you said you need everything A/C. The Harness I have is for an A/C setup. -------------- *To answer this current question, Yes if you meet the following requirements -- Stator/Flywheel
- Regulator/Rectifer
- CDI
If you have a D/C harness, and the three components I listed above, yes, you can use the D/C harness. You must use the matching/corresponding components: Stator-CDI-R/R (the three should be considered an assembly, instead of separate components)
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On a side note; There's a million ways to "jury rig" when it comes to wiring and really you don't even always need to use GY6 specific parts... What I'm giving advice on is to keep it "stock". I have multiple scooters I am working on, that is why this is a different thread. This is a DC scooter, the other thread was for MY scooter which is AC. I am trying to install this new engine without cutting and rewiring everything, everything is in the scooter but the engine, it is DC powered, not AC. I would like to know if I need to switch the stator from the new engine or can I just plug the AC labeled stator into the DC wiring harness? |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 21, 2015 0:30:37 GMT -5
Perhaps you should keep this in one thread so things don't get confusing. In the other thread you said you need everything A/C. The Harness I have is for an A/C setup. -------------- *To answer this current question, Yes if you meet the following requirements -- Stator/Flywheel
- Regulator/Rectifer
- CDI
If you have a D/C harness, and the three components I listed above, yes, you can use the D/C harness. You must use the matching/corresponding components: Stator-CDI-R/R (the three should be considered an assembly, instead of separate components)
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On a side note; There's a million ways to "jury rig" when it comes to wiring and really you don't even always need to use GY6 specific parts... What I'm giving advice on is to keep it "stock". I have multiple scooters I am working on, that is why this is a different thread. This is a DC scooter, the other thread was for MY scooter which is AC. I am trying to install this new engine without cutting and rewiring everything, everything is in the scooter but the engine, it is DC powered, not AC. I would like to know if I need to switch the stator from the new engine or can I just plug the AC labeled stator into the DC wiring harness? I see... I would have to see pictures. The wires themselves don't care if they transmit AC or DC... As long as plugs and pins match and you use the 3 components I mentioned above, you "might" be able to do it the way ya want.... I didn't realize you was working on two scoots.... I thought you were going bonkers for a second because not more than a few minutes earlier you told me you needed AC  |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 21, 2015 0:31:53 GMT -5
No. They all produce A/C current but they receive the label A/C or D/C to identify what R/R and CDI works with them... In addition, the A/C or D/C indicates if it has a pole solely dedicated to the battery or CDI. But this is where the confusion comes from... So, in short: Yes, they all produce A/C, but they also are called A/C or D/C to designate the firing method. OK, so the connections coming from the stator used for a DC setup will be different right ? Yes. |
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Post by lain on May 21, 2015 0:34:21 GMT -5
I have multiple scooters I am working on, that is why this is a different thread. This is a DC scooter, the other thread was for MY scooter which is AC. I am trying to install this new engine without cutting and rewiring everything, everything is in the scooter but the engine, it is DC powered, not AC. I would like to know if I need to switch the stator from the new engine or can I just plug the AC labeled stator into the DC wiring harness? I see... I would have to see pictures. The wires themselves don't care if they transmit AC or DC... As long as plugs and pins match and you use the 3 components I mentioned above, you "might" be able to do it the way ya want.... I didn't realize you was working on two scoots.... I thought you were going bonkers for a second because not more than a few minutes earlier you told me you needed AC If all stators output AC would I be able to just simply put the wires from the stator in the right places for the DC setup? Or would it be better to just swap to the old stator? |
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Post by dmartin95 on May 21, 2015 0:41:35 GMT -5
I see... I would have to see pictures. The wires themselves don't care if they transmit AC or DC... As long as plugs and pins match and you use the 3 components I mentioned above, you "might" be able to do it the way ya want.... I didn't realize you was working on two scoots.... I thought you were going bonkers for a second because not more than a few minutes earlier you told me you needed AC If all stators output AC would I be able to just simply put the wires from the stator in the right places for the DC setup? Or would it be better to just swap to the old stator? You could leave the AC firing coil wire unhooked, however, I'm not sure if that would drop that pole from the total output or not... I would have to trace how these things are wired... Could be that they just tap an extra lead for the AC firing coil....I am unsure of the consequences.... I could tell ya tomorrow. However, my suggestion is if you have a DC harness, go with DC peripherals and visa'versa.... |
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Post by geh3333 on May 21, 2015 0:44:29 GMT -5
OK, so the connections coming from the stator used for a DC setup will be different right ? Yes. One more question . looks as if the ac stator has one extra wire. From the pics I saw . I never actually looked at a DC style stator, but it looked as if the DC has 4 wire and the AC has 5 wires. Id expect you would be able to connect the wires coming from the AC style stator to the correct wires from the DC harness . is this correct? |
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Post by geh3333 on May 21, 2015 0:45:33 GMT -5
I see... I would have to see pictures. The wires themselves don't care if they transmit AC or DC... As long as plugs and pins match and you use the 3 components I mentioned above, you "might" be able to do it the way ya want.... I didn't realize you was working on two scoots.... I thought you were going bonkers for a second because not more than a few minutes earlier you told me you needed AC If all stators output AC would I be able to just simply put the wires from the stator in the right places for the DC setup? Or would it be better to just swap to the old stator? I just asked the same question ,lol. I figured you could but I wasn't sure. You'd have to do some testing that's all |
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Post by geh3333 on May 21, 2015 0:48:05 GMT -5
Hey lain , do u have a flywheel puller ? If not , you can use a steering wheel puller . that's what I have to do.
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Post by lain on May 21, 2015 0:50:57 GMT -5
Hey lain , do u have a flywheel puller ? If not , you can use a steering wheel puller . that's what I have to do. I have a flywheel puller yes. |
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