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Post by lain on Mar 4, 2015 13:52:39 GMT -5
Some call them shims, some call the dust caps, some use both due to spacing issues (a shim is usually used to fill space). If the stem bearings come loose, sometimes these will get a bit out of place, allowing movement. If you cannot move the front wheel with it off the ground (laterally or horizontally, not spinning), then this is not your problem. Without hearing the click, it's very hard to give an idea of what is causing it. Have you taken off the speedo puck and inspected it? Are your brake calipers solidly attached? Does your front wheel spin freely, clearing the fender and body panels? Just went for another ride, now it seems to be vibrating a lot from the front end, like I can feel every caveat of the road now. I have not inspected the speedo fully, I honestly just took it off and set it aside when I was checking things then put i back on without looking inside. The front brake caliper seems fine, it is relatively new, about a month now, and the speedo too. The part of the caliper that moves to open and close the brake onto the disc is a little jiggly but was also when I first installed it and does not seem to be too loose. The pads are also fine. The disc however is the original disc, and is slightly warped. When I spin the wheel off the ground it looks as if the brake slides a little bit against the disc at one point of the rotation, but the wheel does not wobble. I can also feel slight rubbing when I move it by hand but not enough to do anything really. When the wheel is off the ground I cannot move it up or down or side to side or any direction. I wish there was a way to see my shocks as I am using them because it really seems like everything is fine and the only thing that I would think would visually check out in service but still not work right on the road would be the shocks, right? I mean I don't have any special tools for testing the strength of the shocks, but I do not remember it running so bouncy before the last week or so. I don't want to buy new shocks then find out they weren't an issue ya know? |
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Post by rdhood on Mar 5, 2015 10:46:10 GMT -5
Found this on you tube: Service a scooter fork legMaybe its time to pull them out and compress them by hand and see if you can tell the difference. Take one or both apart and see if it is broken in some way. Just looking at the video, it doesn't look like there is much that can go wrong. A single fork leg can be had for $25-$50. It's not that expensive. Another thing you might try is get someone out on a flat stretch of ground in front of you videotaping as you accelerate and then stop quickly.... see if you can see anything happening. |
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Post by bashan on Mar 5, 2015 19:48:52 GMT -5
Are you sure this bolt (red arrow) is tight?
Jerry is talking about these things, are they tight and not wobbling?
If so it's your shocks, replace them, they're not that expensive. |
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Post by lain on Mar 5, 2015 20:34:26 GMT -5
Are you sure this bolt (red arrow) is tight?
Jerry is talking about these things, are they tight and not wobbling?
If so it's your shocks, replace them, they're not that expensive.Everything is nice and tight. for a pair of new shocks I see them for 60-80 on ebay, I don't have more than 40 to spend for the next month or so. Money is super tight right now. |
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Post by geh3333 on Mar 5, 2015 20:52:38 GMT -5
Are you sure this bolt (red arrow) is tight?
Jerry is talking about these things, are they tight and not wobbling?
If so it's your shocks, replace them, they're not that expensive.Everything is nice and tight. for a pair of new shocks I see them for 60-80 on ebay, I don't have more than 40 to spend for the next month or so. Money is super tight right now. U can take them apart and check the oil , and clean them up. If the springs are wore out some , you can add washers to create a stiffer spring. I had mine apart but I forget if that's possible. |
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Post by lain on Mar 5, 2015 23:27:52 GMT -5
Everything is nice and tight. for a pair of new shocks I see them for 60-80 on ebay, I don't have more than 40 to spend for the next month or so. Money is super tight right now. U can take them apart and check the oil , and clean them up. If the springs are wore out some , you can add washers to create a stiffer spring. I had mine apart but I forget if that's possible. I would think getting the right stiffness and the right mix of oil on worn out shocks would be beyond what I know how to do. But if it's just a matter of draining the oil and replacing it and adding washers, I mean that doesn't sound like too much. How much oil and whatnot is what I think I would need to know, as well as what kind of oil? |
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Post by geh3333 on Mar 6, 2015 11:02:53 GMT -5
Fork " damper " oil . here is a vid :
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Post by geh3333 on Mar 6, 2015 11:07:43 GMT -5
If the spring is wore out you can add a couple or so washers either before you put the spring back in or after . just make sure the washers just fit in the tube.
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Post by lain on Mar 6, 2015 13:07:11 GMT -5
If the spring is wore out you can add a couple or so washers either before you put the spring back in or after . just make sure the washers just fit in the tube. How much oil? I know if the oil is not the right amount it won't work right. |
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Post by geh3333 on Mar 6, 2015 14:34:43 GMT -5
If the spring is wore out you can add a couple or so washers either before you put the spring back in or after . just make sure the washers just fit in the tube. How much oil? I know if the oil is not the right amount it won't work right. TBA I'm not 100% sure . I think its between 4-6 oz , but I may be wrong. I know that doesn't help. |
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 6, 2015 15:30:54 GMT -5
Depends on the size of the shocks, not all are the same. Here's a thread with a very thorough PDI including changing the front shock oil. He put in 90ml into each shock after draining 80ml from one and 70ml from the other. Keep in mind that this is a scooter with 16" wheels, so the shock may be larger than standard (I'll try to remember to compare mine to my 50cc later). He has numbered the steps to his PDI, you are looking for #21: itistheride.boards.net/thread/3438/znen-zn150t-scooter-tips-mods?page=1 |
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Post by lain on Mar 7, 2015 12:12:38 GMT -5
Depends on the size of the shocks, not all are the same. Here's a thread with a very thorough PDI including changing the front shock oil. He put in 90ml into each shock after draining 80ml from one and 70ml from the other. Keep in mind that this is a scooter with 16" wheels, so the shock may be larger than standard (I'll try to remember to compare mine to my 50cc later). He has numbered the steps to his PDI, you are looking for #21: itistheride.boards.net/thread/3438/znen-zn150t-scooter-tips-mods?page=1Is the oil really called "Fork oil?" I went to autozone, to advanced auto parts, and pep boys and they all asked me "What is fork oil?" and upon looking in their inventory did not find anything like it. Does it possibly go by another name? |
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Post by JoeyBee on Mar 7, 2015 12:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by hillbillybob on Mar 7, 2015 15:36:46 GMT -5
If you go to a motorcycle shop/dealer, bet they won't say "what is fork oil".
Google, and Yahoo seem to know what it is too.
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Post by geh3333 on Mar 9, 2015 1:06:30 GMT -5
If you go to a motorcycle shop/dealer, bet they won't say "what is fork oil". Google, and Yahoo seem to know what it is too. That's right , a motorcycle or an ATV shop will have it and know what it is. Lol , that's kind of funny . you would think they would know what it is , but then again many places like that do not hire people who know that much about motorcycles. Lucky if they know about cars and trucks , lol |
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