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Post by alleyoop on Feb 2, 2015 12:51:20 GMT -5
Yep, if it clicks and you then jump the terminals and it spins the starter the solenoid is bad period. But if you don't test then you can replace and or take stuff apart that is not bad. Also to test the starter just jump it directly with the scoot battery or another outside source battery. So before you take anything apart test it first very easy to do before you tear into anything.
If you do not know how just open a thread and ask.
Alleyoop
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 4, 2015 20:51:25 GMT -5
Yep, if it clicks and you then jump the terminals and it spins the starter the solenoid is bad period. But if you don't test then you can replace and or take stuff apart that is not bad. Also to test the starter just jump it directly with the scoot battery or another outside source battery. So before you take anything apart test it first very easy to do before you tear into anything. If you do not know how just open a thread and ask. Alleyoop OK I got it turning over again. There was a part of the thin ground wire that was taped that had came loose so I retaped it and it turns over again. The kick start lever and gears should be here soon. |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 4, 2015 20:51:37 GMT -5
Now back to getting it to fire
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 4, 2015 21:14:01 GMT -5
Yep, if it clicks and you then jump the terminals and it spins the starter the solenoid is bad period. But if you don't test then you can replace and or take stuff apart that is not bad. Also to test the starter just jump it directly with the scoot battery or another outside source battery. So before you take anything apart test it first very easy to do before you tear into anything. If you do not know how just open a thread and ask. Alleyoop Scoot won't fire: |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 4, 2015 22:46:27 GMT -5
wow it still sounds out of time too me..why wont it push the piston through compression stroke like that,,cant think of anything else...
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Post by onewheeldrive on Feb 5, 2015 3:07:33 GMT -5
The way that turns over slow reminds me of the chain tensioner putting way too much pressure on the chain-- which will make it very hard to turn over when improperly installed. Not sure you would've been able to ride it though, like you said you did. Did you take the spring out of the tensioner?
Something about that wiring though.... plus that battery seems weak. Maybe check under the taping or maybe some wires are corroded....etc.
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 5, 2015 6:40:49 GMT -5
The way that turns over slow reminds me of the chain tensioner putting way too much pressure on the chain-- which will make it very hard to turn over when improperly installed. Not sure you would've been able to ride it though, like you said you did. Did you take the spring out of the tensioner? Something about that wiring though.... plus that battery seems weak. Maybe check under the taping or maybe some wires are corroded....etc. The spring and the little pin is still in there |
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Post by lain on Feb 5, 2015 9:22:07 GMT -5
Did you move the chain like alley suggested? If you did try moving it back and also one in the other direction and back to where you began. Record the differences.
What is this about taping ground wires? lol... Put the terminal end under the head of a bolt near the starter or on the starter. If you do not have a terminal end on the wire you can use bare wire and wrap it around a bolt then screw the bolt in. It is better to use a terminal wire end but that should work for now and won't waste tape and come off from vibration and weather.
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 5, 2015 9:26:30 GMT -5
No I actually forgot to do that but I will do it today. And the person I got this scoot from had brought it to a guy who had rigged it up in alot of places. So there are a lot of taped wires, and I found a spot on the thin ground wire that was not taped together and I just retaped it and it turns over again instead of clicking at the solenoid
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Post by lain on Feb 5, 2015 9:46:16 GMT -5
I've had a few friends who got secondhand scoots like that. I ended up checking everything, found things like on a couple the valve head vent hose was plugged up with a screw at the end or stuck onto something it shouldn't have. I've seen the electrical systems on them totalled as if the previous owner got upset and just tore the wires. It's always good to do a throurough check on secondhand vehicles. I'm planning to get a second scoot soon with my tax refund. I plan to only buy from people who let me take off the seat and look at everything inside. I am not going to buy a secondhand Frankenstein.
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Feb 5, 2015 10:03:44 GMT -5
I've had a few friends who got secondhand scoots like that. I ended up checking everything, found things like on a couple the valve head vent hose was plugged up with a screw at the end or stuck onto something it shouldn't have. I've seen the electrical systems on them totalled as if the previous owner got upset and just tore the wires. It's always good to do a throurough check on secondhand vehicles. I'm planning to get a second scoot soon with my tax refund. I plan to only buy from people who let me take off the seat and look at everything inside. I am not going to buy a secondhand Frankenstein. Yeah I would've been mad at him if I bought it. Its probably why i got it for free. Because he was tired of messing with it |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 5, 2015 10:21:28 GMT -5
He sure messed it up,,thats no doubt.
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Post by onewheeldrive on Feb 5, 2015 13:54:44 GMT -5
The way that turns over slow reminds me of the chain tensioner putting way too much pressure on the chain-- which will make it very hard to turn over when improperly installed. Not sure you would've been able to ride it though, like you said you did. Did you take the spring out of the tensioner? Something about that wiring though.... plus that battery seems weak. Maybe check under the taping or maybe some wires are corroded....etc. The spring and the little pin is still in there I mean, did you take the spring out and put it back in when removing the chain tensioner? Or did you remove just the 2 small bolts and not the middle one, and put it back on like that. Maybe it extended out far. |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 5, 2015 14:41:12 GMT -5
Yup,,sometimes the tensioner will get hung up,,you have to make sure it snaps/springs back into place...you have to turn the middle screw CCW until the spring is fully tensioned,,then install,,then make sure that sucker un-spools CW too put tension on the chain...I think it was CCW not 100% sure..might be bass ackwards on that one..lol
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 5, 2015 21:25:08 GMT -5
Yup,,sometimes the tensioner will get hung up,,you have to make sure it snaps/springs back into place...you have to turn the middle screw CCW until the spring is fully tensioned,,then install,,then make sure that sucker un-spools CW too put tension on the chain...I think it was CCW not 100% sure..might be bass ackwards on that one..lol The cam chain tensioner is not the same on a 50cc as it is on a 150cc. You don't have a screw to turn to release it on a 50cc, you have a bolt that comes out with a spring around it. There is a tab on the side of the tensioner probe that you squeeze and press it up, install it, then put the spring and bolt back down into the center. If you don't squeeze that tab and push the probe back up (retract it), then you will have too much tension. |
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