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Post by rockynv on Sept 15, 2014 4:04:13 GMT -5
No the door is there just when the cap is off it's level with the floor boards. My scoot's previous owner lived out at the beach and used it to get to and from the bars at night. So yeah one can guess how filling it after a few drinks...... I live in Tampa Bay so the beach is everywhere however growing up in an Italian household with a WWII TopKick and Army Ranger who was born in 1906 as my Dad (think Pop-Eye the Sailor arms and stature) we grew up with hard liquor and brandies but drunk was not tolerated. Dad was also an MIT trained engineer so allowing sand to get in the tank was just inexcusable carelessness regardless of the gas fill location. Still have my dads 1952 FMC walking tractor and trust me there was no sand allowed in that gas tank either regardless of how dusty things were when plowing or how tired you were. Use you tee shirt as a filter if you have too and man up about the smell but you didn't dare get sand in Toppy's gas tank. Still miss him after loosing him in 2004 just a few weeks shy of 98. My kids sometimes do not appreciate the military and master engineers discipline he taught us and then at other times they are really appreciative when what he passed on saves them grief in their personal lives. |
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Post by xyshannen on Sept 15, 2014 6:53:52 GMT -5
LOL @ Toppy, that's an awesome name, I certainly know the type. Yeah the last owner really didn't take care of this scoot at all. I'm lucky I got it with only 2K miles on it so it still has plenty of compression.
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 15, 2014 7:26:57 GMT -5
Running out of gas is common. I have never run out of gas. Mom (who also has never run out of gas) taught me that early on. Said it's terribly hard on an engine and just don't do it. Closest I got was my '78 Olds got down to a gallon left before I found a full-serve station (this was before a friend showed me how to pump). And I have had the low fuel light come on one time on my scoot. My wagon's gauge lies low, but I still get nervous and fill up by 1/8 left. My brother did run out, but that was on the John Deere when Mom wanted it empty for the winter. He and his best friend were joy-riding through the yard and of course ran out in the back. He wanted to add a little to get to the garage, but Mom made them push the mower. Ha. Guess I've just never had the desire to show my She-ra by pushing a vehicle. Nor my Rich Uncle Pennybags by needing to fix something after running dry. >'Kat |
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Post by tvnacman on Sept 15, 2014 9:23:44 GMT -5
The gage on the vest I can rely on . The ones on the Chinese not so much . Before I got the vest , I kept a 5 gallon gas can and topped off before leaving in the morning . I ran out of gas twice on my harley once my fault and the second time I had a joke played on me at work . They pumped out my tank , at the time it was a 6 mile ride I made it 4 . I still keep the 5 gallon can just in case or when it very cold . I ride the Chinese and use the heated clothing . It's a pain to fuel when bundled .
Today it easy swipe at the pump and pump .
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Post by seamus26 on Sept 15, 2014 10:30:25 GMT -5
It's bugging the crap out of me but getting at my tank is no easy ordeal. Not to mention I've been too busy with other projects to mess with it. An automotive grade fuel filter is the easy fix. Even after I dump the tank, trash getting in there over time is almost guaranteed, The tank fill port is in one of the worst places ever. I swear I have to wonder what someone was thinking when they designed this bike. Some things are genius and then some things are major fail. I have thought exactly the same thing. Why in the world would they put the filler tube there? I hate filling up. Not only is that a bad spot, but the filler is very conducive to splashing gas all over. I have found a few stations that have older pumps with a soft touch to them so I can fill up very slowly. A lot of the newer pumps seem to be all or nothing, which in this case winds up being all over everything. Haven't run out of gas yet. My gage seems fairly accurate. I fill when I get into the red. |
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Post by rockynv on Sept 15, 2014 12:01:11 GMT -5
Some find twisting the bar across the fuel opening  degrees using a pair of pliers will help with the splashing while other use a pair of snips to remove the center portion of it. I just learned to keep the nozzle of to one side which eliminated the problem for me. |
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Post by captaincrunnk on Sept 15, 2014 12:06:44 GMT -5
Some find twisting the bar across the fuel opening degrees using a pair of pliers will help with the splashing while other use a pair of snips to remove the center portion of it. I just learned to keep the nozzle of to one side which eliminated the problem for me. This is the method I used to deal with that annoying cross bar. I just used a pair of strong pliers that had wire cutters on them too, the wire cutter part snipped that bar right out. Just make sure you don't drop it in your tank! |
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Post by rockynv on Sept 15, 2014 21:27:13 GMT -5
LOL @ Toppy, that's an awesome name, I certainly know the type. Yeah the last owner really didn't take care of this scoot at all. I'm lucky I got it with only 2K miles on it so it still has plenty of compression. You don't mess with the Top Kick and you really had to be on his good side and pretty close to get away with Toppy. A home invader who went after him when he was in his mid eighties found out the hard way what would happen when you pushed him too far. Dad said he really went easy on the guy not breaking any major bones and left him so he could hobble away (maybe just a broken color bone and needed his right shoulder reset) he was even nice enough to face plant him out on the lawn instead of the concrete floor so he only got a mouth full of dirt and kept his smile. The guy was a foot taller and easily had 100 lbs on Toppy and was bragging on his martial arts skills when he found out what Army Rangers and Jungle Raiders were trained for during WWII. We can still hear the guy crying about the mean old man as he made his escape. It was really kind of comical. Good you got it before any major damage was done,. I got mine at 3,700 and there was a lot to deal with from the previous owner. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 15, 2014 22:18:45 GMT -5
Remind me, somebody please. What's the intended purpose of the fuel tank cross bar? And why doesn't mine seem to have one?
>'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Sept 16, 2014 3:39:43 GMT -5
Remind me, somebody please. What's the intended purpose of the fuel tank cross bar? And why doesn't mine seem to have one? >'Kat Your tank is deep enough that you wont hit the bottom by inserting the nozzle to deeply however the Lances tank in the floorboards is so shallow that you could to that easily. It also helps you set the nozzle at the correct level to fill the tank as without it you could end up having the pump automatically stopping a less than 1/4 full which is not a good thing on a tank that only holds 1 1/5 gallons of gas. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 16, 2014 7:33:43 GMT -5
Oh! That makes sense now. Thanks rocky! I have never once thought about how the gas nozzle knows when to click off. I just insert it (car or scoot), set it to low, and watch my money go away  (esp with the wagon). Next question. Doesn't bending (or removing!) the bar defeat its purpose? How do you know when to click off the nozzle for a full tank? >'Kat |
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Post by captaincrunnk on Sept 16, 2014 8:04:04 GMT -5
Oh! That makes sense now. Thanks rocky! I have never once thought about how the gas nozzle knows when to click off. I just insert it (car or scoot), set it to low, and watch my money go away (esp with the wagon). Next question. Doesn't bending (or removing!) the bar defeat its purpose? How do you know when to click off the nozzle for a full tank? >'Kat Well, the biggest problem is that with the bar in - at least in my case - the gas pumps have no other speed setting than that of a fire truck hose's pressure. With the bar in it's difficult to manage to regulate the gas flow well enough to actually get gas IN the tank instead of shooting it against the fill neck and flinging it out all over the scoot and its paint. The problem for me now without the bar is that the nozzle at most pumps wants to click off after it gets about a third of a gallon of gas in it leaving me squeezing the trigger over and over to finish filling up. -_- Just can't win. But hey, at least all of the gas I'm pumping is getting into my tank where I can use it! |
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Post by blaxel on Oct 10, 2014 14:32:10 GMT -5
I ran out of gas while i was going to work in the morning i was about a light away luckily there was a gas station but still was embarrassing pushing the scooter through traffic.lol
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Post by xyshannen on Oct 11, 2014 8:42:49 GMT -5
It's bugging the crap out of me but getting at my tank is no easy ordeal. Not to mention I've been too busy with other projects to mess with it. An automotive grade fuel filter is the easy fix. Even after I dump the tank, trash getting in there over time is almost guaranteed, The tank fill port is in one of the worst places ever. I swear I have to wonder what someone was thinking when they designed this bike. Some things are genius and then some things are major fail. I have thought exactly the same thing. Why in the world would they put the filler tube there? I hate filling up. Not only is that a bad spot, but the filler is very conducive to splashing gas all over. I have found a few stations that have older pumps with a soft touch to them so I can fill up very slowly. A lot of the newer pumps seem to be all or nothing, which in this case winds up being all over everything. Haven't run out of gas yet. My gage seems fairly accurate. I fill when I get into the red. A wile back I decided to test our gas gauge and ran my scoot till the gauge was below the red and I still didn't run dry. So just an FYI you "could" probably run yours past the red and still be ok as you limp it to the gas station. |
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Post by skyrider on Oct 11, 2014 11:31:43 GMT -5
The time that stands out in my memory is when I was riding my Honda GL500 Interstate from Tucson to NW Arkansas to visit my parents. That bike easily did 50+ MPG so Tucson to Deming NM was easy. Except there was about 20-25 mile head wind. It ran out miles before Deming but I was within sight of a station. Had just started pushing when a car stopped and the driver pulled a gas can from his trunk and gave me a gallon or so and would not take anything for it. Then the battery was so weak it would not start so we turned it around so the wind was behind and push started it. Found a new battery at Checker in Alamogordo NM.
Ahh those were the days.
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degrees using a pair of pliers will help with the splashing while other use a pair of snips to remove the center portion of it. I just learned to keep the nozzle of to one side which eliminated the problem for me.
