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Post by ricardoguitars on Jun 5, 2015 16:51:10 GMT -5
In my scoot, I have to give it just a tiny bit of throttle to get it started, otherwise it won't start, if I give it more than a bit it won't start either; that might be your problem as well.  |
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Post by chromestarhustler on Jun 5, 2015 17:16:54 GMT -5
Ok personally its been a year, i would call it a lost cause, take it to a shop or throw it in the trash and take up knitting, i dont think you got the skills to ride chinese...get a honda and keep it stock.
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Post by onceler on Jun 5, 2015 19:24:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas, Ricardo I've moved the throttle to every position, but it just doesn't like to light.
And Chromestar,lol on the take up knitting part, I think you're right!
But it's a disease now that I can't cure until I get this stupid hunk of chinese crap to start on a regular basis.
I just finished adjusting the valves to a "loose" 0.006" and took apart the carb again and cleaned it....still no start and yes I do have a high torque starter.
I removed the intake and put some lube on the o-rings to see if it was sealing. It appears to be.
There's only 1 scooter shop in my area and he is always busy, and never open when I'm off work for some reason.
Is there anything I'm not thinking of? Any obscure reasons that anyone has seen that might help?
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Post by tvnacman on Jun 5, 2015 19:34:45 GMT -5
do you have another cdi that works to try?
John
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 19:40:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas, Ricardo I've moved the throttle to every position, but it just doesn't like to light. And Chromestar,lol on the take up knitting part, I think you're right! But it's a disease now that I can't cure until I get this stupid hunk of chinese crap to start on a regular basis. I just finished adjusting the valves to a "loose" 0.006" and took apart the carb again and cleaned it....still no start and yes I do have a high torque starter. I removed the intake and put some lube on the o-rings to see if it was sealing. It appears to be. There's only 1 scooter shop in my area and he is always busy, and never open when I'm off work for some reason. Is there anything I'm not thinking of? Any obscure reasons that anyone has seen that might help? Can u post a video of you trying to start it ? |
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Post by onceler on Jun 5, 2015 19:53:10 GMT -5
Ok, I switched to the other performance cdi that I know works, but it still wouldn't light.
But get this... the last time I was able to get it to run, I shredded a drive belt. And basically it hasn't ran since I replaced the belt. Well just now I removed the belt in desperation...and it fired right up!
So now I'm at a loss as to why it won't start with the belt on
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Post by JoeyBee on Jun 5, 2015 20:01:41 GMT -5
Have you considered switching to a high torque starter?
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 20:01:41 GMT -5
Ok, I switched to the other performance cdi that I know works, but it still wouldn't light. But get this... the last time I was able to get it to run, I shredded a drive belt. And basically it hasn't ran since I replaced the belt. Well just now I removed the belt in desperation...and it fired right up! So now I'm at a loss as to why it won't start with the belt on You have a cvt issue . the CVT is being held back from a possibly bad bearing issue. Have you checked the gear oil recently ? This is the second belt to break in not many miles at all. If your belt is snapping , you have a CVT issue. What's happening ,is with the stock bore , its much easier to turn over , even with the CVT issue. With the bbk , and the CVT issue it is much harder to turn over. This explains the black plug. The plug is igniting, but the combustion is not powerful enough to kick the engine over. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 20:05:36 GMT -5
Ok, I switched to the other performance cdi that I know works, but it still wouldn't light. But get this... the last time I was able to get it to run, I shredded a drive belt. And basically it hasn't ran since I replaced the belt. Well just now I removed the belt in desperation...and it fired right up! So now I'm at a loss as to why it won't start with the belt on You have a cvt issue . the CVT is being held back from a possibly bad bearing issue. Have you checked the gear oil recently ? This is the second belt to break in not many miles at all. If your belt is snapping , you have a CVT issue. What's happening ,is with the stock bore , its much easier to turn over , even with the CVT issue. With the bbk , and the CVT issue it is much harder to turn over. This explains the black plug. The plug is igniting, but the combustion is not powerful enough to kick the engine over. Also did you clean out the first broken belt ? Many times pieces of the belt will become jammed in certain places causing CVT issues. I would do a complete clutch tear down. And clean it out . also decrease the clutch bearings and the inner clutch sheave where the clutch slides open. Also buy a gates Kevlar belt. |
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Post by tvnacman on Jun 5, 2015 20:20:05 GMT -5
Ok, I switched to the other performance cdi that I know works, but it still wouldn't light. But get this... the last time I was able to get it to run, I shredded a drive belt. And basically it hasn't ran since I replaced the belt. Well just now I removed the belt in desperation...and it fired right up! So now I'm at a loss as to why it won't start with the belt on You have a cvt issue . the CVT is being held back from a possibly bad bearing issue. Have you checked the gear oil recently ? This is the second belt to break in not many miles at all. If your belt is snapping , you have a CVT issue. What's happening ,is with the stock bore , its much easier to turn over , even with the CVT issue. With the bbk , and the CVT issue it is much harder to turn over. This explains the black plug. The plug is igniting, but the combustion is not powerful enough to kick the engine over. did you remove the variator and clutch assembly after the belt broke? John |
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Post by onceler on Jun 5, 2015 20:33:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the advise on the CVT, guys
Yes I did remove the variator and clutch and dis-assembled the sheave after the 2nd belt broke. The sheave seamed to be sloppy and prone to sticking, but not sure if this is the issue. But it may explain why it ran ok sometimes and then sometimes would die coming to a stop and then not start. I think I'll order a new one. I've already got a new clutch coming.
The rear wheel does seem to have some resistance when I spin it, but I'm not sure what is normal. I need another bike to compare it to.
But at least the subject of "Installed BBK now will not run" seems to be closed (for the 2nd time,lol). I'll start a new thread on the CVT when I have questions.
Thank you all for the help and sticking with me for almost a year. Maybe someone else can learn from my dumb*ss
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 20:43:10 GMT -5
Does your clutch spin freely on the shaft , with not belt on ? That and a belt that is too small would cause the tension needed to keep the scoot from turning over and snapping the belts. The tranny bearing don't come into play yet. The more I think about it. The clutch pulley being stuck closed should not cause the belt to have too much tension at idle.
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 20:53:43 GMT -5
Actually , if the clutch pulleybis stuck completely closed , the belt would be pretty hard to install. But if you were able to install it , the belt would be very tight.
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Post by onceler on Jun 5, 2015 20:56:38 GMT -5
Yes, the clutch does spin freely without the belt. I put a 669 length belt on it, but I never new what was originally on it, since it shredded the first time. Any idea how to determine if the 669 is the correct size? When I install it I have to pull the clutch pulley apart by hand and keep it spread when I install the front pulley.
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 5, 2015 21:03:56 GMT -5
That's a taotao 2 stroke ?
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