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Post by ramblinman on Aug 21, 2014 14:43:40 GMT -5
we all know driving on wet roads can be dangerous. But did you know that some of those white painted lines are not paint after all? i found that out the hardway last week.
was slowing down to make a right hand turn and the moment my wheel came in contact with the wet plastic white line i was bouncing my helmet off the curb and banging my knee into the concrete. it happened so fast i didn't even think to react until i was already down. i managed to get home on the scoot but my knee took a beating and friday morning i couldn't get out of bed. was like that for 4 days, finally limping around 2 days ago. still have trouble putting all my weight on my right knee but it's getting better.
when did they start using plastic markers on the road? should be illegal to put any slippery substance on the road but whatever, over and done with. live and learn i guess. hopefully you guys can learn from my pain. (don't brake when you're on top of those plastic road markings, especially if it's wet)
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Post by spandi on Aug 21, 2014 14:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by tvnacman on Aug 21, 2014 15:25:48 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your fall . I'm glad to hear your getting better . Besides the lines in the city the man hole covers are just as bad same with the metal expansion joints on the bridges .
John
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Post by shalomdawg on Aug 21, 2014 16:50:35 GMT -5
howdy and an add to the warning above is that when they get wet it's like spreading butter on them or to those old enough to remember "slicker than sn-t on a doorknob"
glad you are up and good luck with repairs and a new helmet---
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by Paladin on Aug 21, 2014 19:40:55 GMT -5
we all know driving on wet roads can be dangerous. But did you know that some of those white painted lines are not paint after all?.... Yeah, slick stuff, ain't it. You also need to watch manholes, track rails, leaves, dust, oil, water. snow, ice, bridges, cattle guards, etc.. Government is not required to protect you . |
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Post by pmatulew on Aug 21, 2014 20:48:36 GMT -5
If only it were just plastic...
Around here it's common road construction practice to spray glass beads into the wet marker paint. That's what gives it the shine in the headlights. Unfortunately it's also like spraying a zillion tiny ball bearings on the pavement.
Golden Rule: Stay Off The Paint!
Silver Rule: Stay Off The Tar Snakes!
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Post by alente on Aug 21, 2014 22:31:36 GMT -5
Ive pretty much avoided the center lane, any paint during the rain, any part of the road that is shimmery, and avoid the part of the turn at lights that has all those rocks and stuff kicked between the straight and turn lane. Almost laid down my ninja hitting that at 15mph.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 21, 2014 23:49:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the "heads-up"!
I have encountered those slippery white lines. I don't know just WHAT they are made of, but probably some kind of plastic. Even the painted ones are plenty slippery when wet. Some are pretty slick even when dry.
My least-favorite of all these things are wet railroad tracks set at a sharp angle to the road they cross... Some even have just enough wheel-flange space to grab the skinny front tire on a chopper too. EEEWWW! You REALLY do have to look out for oil, water, gravel, blood... LOL! etc.
Ride safe, ESPECIALLY at night!
Leo in Texas
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Post by seamus26 on Aug 22, 2014 14:14:37 GMT -5
Silver Rule: Stay Off The Tar Snakes! Tar snakes. Just found that one out the other day. I thought my front wheel was falling off. I was in a turn where they had apparently decided to repave both lanes with rubber cement. I was skilled lucky enough to be able to slow down without losing it completely. |
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Post by Paladin on Aug 22, 2014 16:40:36 GMT -5
... least-favorite of all these things are wet railroad tracks set at a sharp angle to the road they cross.... ,-118.291751 Aerial view and Street view:   If the street is wet I re-route so I will NOT ride over those tracks. |
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Post by rockynv on Aug 22, 2014 21:55:54 GMT -5
They are using heat applied vinyl that is about 3/8 inch to 1/2 inch thick and applied by heating the road surface with a flame thrower to get them to melt in. The material is more like what is called saw slick and used instead of roller wheels to more heavy material more easily through cutting/shaping machines. Numbers, lines. turn arrows, cross walks, etc are being applied near intersections where it will do the most damage with this stuff. Its become more prevalent over the past five years or so. Its really bad when it gets highly rounded edges worn on it as it make it more likely that you will slid off them. What ever you do, don't brake while crossing over them even when they appear dry. Saw Slick  |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 23, 2014 12:18:20 GMT -5
Paladin,
Yup... THOSE are the tracks I'm talkin' about! Yup... EEEWWWW!
Rockynv,
Thanks for the info on the plastic booby-traps... You don't even want to brake hard on those in a CAR when they're wet... I've had them lock up the left, or right wheels and throw the car WAY off-center even at less than 20mph when some brain-dead little nipper waddles out in front of me.
Just one more reason to be careful... I have a hard time with today's "thought-process" concerning safety. Now, the big car manufacturers are stressing their automatic braking by sonar, or voodoo, or whatever... So the driver can confidently go along texting, watching TV or whatever, knowing his car is smarter than he/she is and will (hopefully) stop before killing somebody. I suppose "failure of my vehicle to do MY job" will be the next defense to manslaughter.
Leo in Texas
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Post by xyshannen on Aug 23, 2014 19:55:45 GMT -5
I know it's already been mentioned but I thouht I would stress just how dangerous leaves can be, even dry leaves. 3 years ago I was on my other toy, a lypo powered electric bike capable of speeds in excess of 45 mph (even more if I had more voltage) and 30 miles on a single charge. I was coming to a atop at about 30 mph on a section of road covered in leaves, they were literally covering urge whole road. I just touched my brakes and the front tire locked up and slid causing the bike to flip out from under me. I landed on my left elbow shoving my arm up into my shoulder shattering it into a dozen or so prices, and splitting my humorous down the middle like a piece of wood. I now have a rod tuning the length of my arm from shoulder to elbow with over 30 screws holding everything together. My left arm is basically useless now and is pretty much just for show and it keeps me from walking lopsided. So be careful out there.
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Post by ramblinman on Aug 29, 2014 11:14:28 GMT -5
wow xyshannen, thats horrible. it doesn't take much speed to do some serious damage. 15 days since this happened and my knee is still not 100%. i think my injuries aren't as bad as you described but i am starting to wonder if i'm going to fully recover. i bought my helmet when i got my last scoot because i needed it by law, bought my protective jacket when i had an incident landing on grass, 2 weeks ago i bought knee pads.
Man am i dumb! probably should just get all the protective gear before you're injured. ya think? yeah, the knee can't take much... i was only traveling about 25 mph, was slowing for a turn so i'd estimate around that speed. a cheap pair of knee pads would have saved me a lot of pain and money.
i bought this scoot so i could get to work and now because of this scoot i've been out of work for 2 weeks. i don't know whats worse; my knee injury or the lost wages? spandi, those knee pads look great. i got a cheap pair from home depot and won't get on this death trap without them. it takes a long time to heal from even a slow speed incident.
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Post by peaceful on Aug 29, 2014 11:50:50 GMT -5
Up our way, which is rural) we now have some very large farms where their manure is collected as LIQUID. SO FAR THE FARMERS KNOW THEY ARE BEING SCRUTINIZED have been very careful especially on the St Routes BUT a little careless on the county roads. Some of it does not have much odor at all and of course some you warned well in advance. Be aware because the old adage "poop happens" is quick and some of the two wheelers found out that it is slick and a lot like oil after it dries and then rains a little bit.
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