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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 14:32:07 GMT -5
I like messin with my scoot and I'm always thinking of ways to try to increase the life of the engine " especially because I've been running it hard for the last 2 seasons " , so I was wondering of I mounted a 1 or 2 quart oil tank maybe in the underseat compartment and pulled oil from the side drain " under the cvt" and pushed it back into the engine through the dipstick port " I can easily find fittings to attach the line to , with the same threads as the dipstick and the side drain plug" . I wonder if constantly circulating 2 to 3 quarts of oil through the engine would lower the oil temps ? Not that my temps are normally to high but at times my oil temps have gotten up to 220- 230 degrees . Yes I could buy an oil cooler , but I pretty much have everything here to attach an oil tank . Also I don't like how the oil coolers use the engines oil pump to move the oil . Also it dosent look like your moving that much extra oil through the small cooling radiator . Oh yeah , please don't say just stop running it hard , LOL .
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 15:00:06 GMT -5
Anyone think it's a bad idea ?
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Post by scotttx on Jul 25, 2014 19:42:14 GMT -5
how about jb welding an aluminum finned heatsink to the oil tank area? I'll assume you're using synthetic oil already.
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Post by amcjeeper on Jul 25, 2014 19:42:58 GMT -5
how do you plan to get the oil to travel up hill to your tank without using the oil pump? Crank case pressure wont just make it flow up hill and the extra oil in the overhead tank will overfill your crankcase which could cause other problems like hydro lock on the bottom end. I would think any sort of remote system would have to run off the oil pump.
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 19:47:26 GMT -5
how do you plan to get the oil to travel up hill to your tank without using the oil pump? Crank case pressure wont just make it flow up hill and the extra oil in the overhead tank will overfill your crankcase which could cause other problems like hydro lock on the bottom end. I would think any sort of remote system would have to run off the oil pump. Sorry I didn't mention I was going to install an external oil pump on the line pulling the oil from the engine case into the oil tank . That way the oil will flow from the tank to the dipstick port . |
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 19:53:56 GMT -5
how about jb welding an aluminum finned heatsink to the oil tank area? I'll assume you're using synthetic oil already. My theory is that the engine won't be able to heat the 3 quarts of circulating oil as high as it heats less than a quart . Not sure if it will work ? I'd like to install a temp gauge in the oil tank . 10 to 20 degree difference will be worth it . |
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Post by amcjeeper on Jul 25, 2014 19:55:05 GMT -5
makes more sense. Still doesn't sound like a good idea. If the pump ever quit or if it doesn't keep up, you gravity feed more return oil than your able to evacuate and overfill the crankcase with the tank overhead. I would be nervous. Like the idea of an oil cooler, just don't know about the tank being overhead.
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 19:58:45 GMT -5
makes more sense. Still doesn't sound like a good idea. If the pump ever quit or if it doesn't keep up, you gravity feed more return oil than your able to evacuate and overfill the crankcase with the tank overhead. I would be nervous. Like the idea of an oil cooler, just don't know about the tank being overhead. I was going to install the out put port on the tank at the top of the tank so that dosent happen . The oil will only flow out if more oil is pumped into the tank . I'm just not sure how much cooler the oil temp will get. |
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Post by amcjeeper on Jul 25, 2014 20:06:11 GMT -5
Makes sense that way. Very well could work. One more thought, how you gonna check your oil.
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 20:11:26 GMT -5
I'll need a shutoff valve a couple inches up from the dipstick port so I can disconnect the line from the bottom of the shutoff valve and unscrew the connector that screws into the dipstick port .
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 20:13:27 GMT -5
Also I'll need to fill the tank and lines before I begin to pump oil from the engine case so the engine oil level stays normal .
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Post by amcjeeper on Jul 25, 2014 20:17:28 GMT -5
I'm with ya now. Sounds interesting. Maybe add some heatsinks to the tank for good measure. Would be even more intersting if we get to see some pics and before/after temp readings. Keep us posted.
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 20:26:31 GMT -5
I'm with ya now. Sounds interesting. Maybe add some heatsinks to the tank for good measure. Would be even more intersting if we get to see some pics and before/after temp readings. Keep us posted. I'll do that , I'm gonna start sometime next week . I need to find a cheap external oil pump and do some welding on the oil tank . |
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 20:29:06 GMT -5
I believe the oil will mix in the engine case just fine as it's running so I'm not just circulating the same oil ." Hopefully"
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Post by geh3333 on Jul 25, 2014 20:32:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies.
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