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Post by urbanmadness on Feb 23, 2014 4:27:23 GMT -5
pulled the head on the bike today and the pistons are fine. The engine is an oily mess so I'm cleaning as I go... Other things noticed, the cylinder still has it's hone marks so it's in really good shape. The exhuast system is really good shape, no rot.... I can't wait to get her back together. I'm waiting on putting together money so I can start ordering parts. Head gasket is 70 bucks, the belts are 66 each for OEM parts.
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Post by rockynv on Feb 25, 2014 5:26:07 GMT -5
Well, we now know what's wrong with the gold wing.... We blew the right side timing belt, and bent both the exhaust valves on the right side... so I'm pulling the head tomorrow and checking to see if we put holes in the pistons. If we didn't put holes in the pistons, we'll get a used head and put her back together. Was the new timing belt put on only the left side or were the new timing belts put on 10 years ago and the bike been sitting since then? If the bike has been sitting and both belts are the same vintage you may want to replace the left one so you don't have a repeat performance. |
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Post by urbanmadness on Feb 25, 2014 9:25:20 GMT -5
They are both getting changed... If one blew, the other one might.... He said he just changed them but they don't look like quality belts. I found some gates belts for it for pretty reasonable, so that's what I'm going with.
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Post by rockynv on Feb 27, 2014 5:20:48 GMT -5
Thats why I really dislike interference fit engines. A lot of expence afterwards to recover from a cheap belt failing. Go with the good stuff and make sure to inspect and replace them when they start to get weary.
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Post by urbanmadness on Mar 10, 2014 12:27:19 GMT -5
Thats why I really dislike interference fit engines. A lot of expence afterwards to recover from a cheap belt failing. Go with the good stuff and make sure to inspect and replace them when they start to get weary. Just about everything is interfence, anymore. Interferance engines just make more power for the displacement. Even our scooters are interferance motors. As for a quick update... The head is in the machine shop. Head gasket is on order, as are the timing belts. I hope to have her back together by the end of the month.  It's gonna be a huge canvas for some air brush work, that's for dang sure.  |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 11, 2014 3:42:42 GMT -5
Thats why I really dislike interference fit engines. A lot of expence afterwards to recover from a cheap belt failing. Go with the good stuff and make sure to inspect and replace them when they start to get weary. Just about everything is interfence, anymore. Interferance engines just make more power for the displacement. Even our scooters are interferance motors. As for a quick update... The head is in the machine shop. Head gasket is on order, as are the timing belts. I hope to have her back together by the end of the month. It's gonna be a huge canvas for some air brush work, that's for dang sure. I've had some high performance engines that were interference in the standard configuration however the high performance versions had eyebrows in the piston tops to allow for valve clearance if the timing belt jumped or broke. With just a little more forethought in the design they can make very high performance engines that won't self destruct from a bad timing belt with just a little more time spent on the design board. |
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Post by rockinez on Mar 12, 2014 18:39:26 GMT -5
Seems a bit trivial, but I learned a good trick from my Gold Wing buddy about the timing belts.
When you replace them, make sure the labels line up exactly.
It is not for show. If one belt's label moves out of line with the other, it is an early warning of an impending failure.
It lets you proactively replace the belts before you bend a valve.
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Post by urbanmadness on Mar 13, 2014 0:29:48 GMT -5
Seems a bit trivial, but I learned a good trick from my Gold Wing buddy about the timing belts. When you replace them, make sure the labels line up exactly. It is not for show. If one belt's label moves out of line with the other, it is an early warning of an impending failure. It lets you proactively replace the belts before you bend a valve. Yeah, but if I'm gonna pull that cover to look at the belts... I'm just going to change them. My goldwing is a little more of a challenge to pull those covers as it has the poor boy alternator conversion on it. Yup... a Suzuki swift alternator driven off a modified crank pulley. It means anytime you want to check the timing belts, you got to pull the radiator and some extra brackets. Timing belts are pretty cheap, 40 bucks for a set of Gates belts, so changing them at 20k (interval is 30k) just makes sense. |
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Post by domindart on Mar 13, 2014 6:13:11 GMT -5
Nice pick up! What mods are first?
I also just got a motorcycle!!! I've been on customfighters forum posting there cause I and my brother are doing a full custom job on it (cafe fighter)
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Post by urbanmadness on Mar 13, 2014 8:29:01 GMT -5
First mod is to get it running then cleaned up. From there I'll probably just do a repaint with my own wicked twist. I bought it because my buddies and I want to go touring. I'll probably sell it later, as I really want a 1500 goldwing. Goldwings, I've always thought of as kind of vulgar, but man are they nice riding and very dependable bikes.
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Post by spandi on Mar 13, 2014 20:35:15 GMT -5
Just about everything is interfence, anymore. Interferance engines just make more power for the displacement. Even our scooters are interferance motors. As for a quick update... The head is in the machine shop. Head gasket is on order, as are the timing belts. I hope to have her back together by the end of the month. It's gonna be a huge canvas for some air brush work, that's for dang sure. I've had some high performance engines that were interference in the standard configuration however the high performance versions had eyebrows in the piston tops to allow for valve clearance if the timing belt jumped or broke. With just a little more forethought in the design they can make very high performance engines that won't self destruct from a bad timing belt with just a little more time spent on the design board. Ever consider an entire "Theme" bike? (Like your favorite show or movie complete with the Logo/Title-art?) |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 14, 2014 5:05:27 GMT -5
I've had some high performance engines that were interference in the standard configuration however the high performance versions had eyebrows in the piston tops to allow for valve clearance if the timing belt jumped or broke. With just a little more forethought in the design they can make very high performance engines that won't self destruct from a bad timing belt with just a little more time spent on the design board. Ever consider an entire "Theme" bike? (Like your favorite show or movie complete with the Logo/Title-art?) Not really as my bike is just economical basic transportation but maybe UrbanMadness is after he breaks out the airbrush. Me I'm too busy putting miles on the bike and living to take on another full time occupation getting all artsy fartsy with the bike. |
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Post by urbanmadness on May 14, 2014 16:50:00 GMT -5
PROJECT UPDATE
Finally getting back on track, I've had several things causing a back slide, one of them being a really bad auto accident and just being short on funds, generally. Not sleeping well, after said car accident (I'm getting around 2 or three hours of sleep a night currently, but it's getting better)
The head has never made it back from the machine shop. The guy that was doing the work, is simply a toad, soooooo, I went ahead and ordered a used head, with cam and rockers from ebay, yesterday. I have the timing belts, and I'm now waiting on a head gasket from mother Honda (I've been told you only use OEM head gaskets on these bikes or else they leak) So, I am hoping that I will get it put together, weekend after next.
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Post by novaraptor on May 15, 2014 11:15:09 GMT -5
Good to read the update.. Hope you are good after the accident. Timetables are just for planning. Everything seems to take longer, especially if you have to send parts out. Looking forward to seeing pics of it (and you) up and running...  |
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Post by urbanmadness on May 15, 2014 12:16:30 GMT -5
I wasn't hurt physically in the accident and my truck has been fixed. I was very lucky. I was on the levy road, and someone went to pass me and hit oncomming traffic then came back accross my lane and cliped the front of my truck. He didn't survive, unfortunatly. It was a very ugly accident. The lady he hit head on had major injuries.
I'm just not sleeping well, a lot of would of, should of stuff....
I am just very glad I was driving my ridgeline and not my GMC. I think I would of been hurt if I'd been driving the big truck.
As for the goldwing? The head for it is in transit. I can't wait to get it running and get some time in on the bike. I hope the weather is nice and cool weekend after next to make assembling the bike a little nicer.
Can't wait to spend an afternoon cleaning it up, and figuring out what I'm going to do for paint, etc.
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