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by: scootnwinn - Sept 18, 2013 13:36:43 GMT -5
Post by scootnwinn on Sept 18, 2013 13:36:43 GMT -5
Me too Spandi me too
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by: sailracer - Sept 18, 2013 16:07:25 GMT -5
Post by sailracer on Sept 18, 2013 16:07:25 GMT -5
Fodder for personal injury lawyers  I want mine factory fresh too |
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by: Jarlaxle - Sept 19, 2013 8:22:00 GMT -5
Post by Jarlaxle on Sept 19, 2013 8:22:00 GMT -5
Of course I have. I have also seen ten year old tires I would use in a second! I judge tires by CONDITION, not some arbitrary age. One tire on my Jeep in 9 years old, and you could NOT tell which one without checking the date codes! Was your check done by inspecting the inside of the tire? Yes. Note also that I have seen 8 yr old tires pass a full x ray test for capping. |
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by: sailracer - Sept 19, 2013 10:26:16 GMT -5
Post by sailracer on Sept 19, 2013 10:26:16 GMT -5
I would imagine that a lot depends on the climate too. A tire in a tropical environment will not dry out as fast as one in an arid environment .
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by: rockynv - Sept 19, 2013 11:54:45 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 19, 2013 11:54:45 GMT -5
Tires rot faster in hot humid semi-tropical climates. Tires that were passable in Maine will blow out on the 115 degree humid roadways in Florida. Old tires can look good in xrays however the cord can still be weak and prone to failure. The other issue is how close the tire was stored to electrical fields such as from a main panel feed or large shop air compressor due to the decay caused by the ozone generated/attracted.
Note internal inspection requires more than just looking. You have to manipulate the tire to feel for irregularities and such. Remounting the potentially fragile old tire can of itself be the catalyst that causes the failure.
Also note that the people most opposed to the age limits on tires have a vested interest in this and are recappers/regroovers along with those that sell used tires. They scream the loudest against regulation but want to be exempted from liability when an out of date tire that they sell fails and causes a loss.
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by: scootnwinn - Sept 19, 2013 11:58:42 GMT -5
Post by scootnwinn on Sept 19, 2013 11:58:42 GMT -5
Older tires will look good in a lot of (every) ways until they start flexing...
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by: sailracer - Sept 19, 2013 12:26:57 GMT -5
Post by sailracer on Sept 19, 2013 12:26:57 GMT -5
[replyingto=rockynv]rockynv[/replyingto]If you have ozone near a main distribution panel, It's caused by arcing and you have a very serious problem. tires are the least of your worries.
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by: bobshaw - Sept 20, 2013 11:17:38 GMT -5
Post by bobshaw on Sept 20, 2013 11:17:38 GMT -5
I think the manufacturing date should be plainly displayed on the tire, not buried in a code, that most people don't know exists. If the expiration date was an agreed upon date, that should also be displayed on the tire, in the open and labelled as such. JMHO.
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by: rockynv - Sept 20, 2013 12:10:22 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 20, 2013 12:10:22 GMT -5
I think the manufacturing date should be plainly displayed on the tire, not buried in a code, that most people don't know exists. If the expiration date was an agreed upon date, that should also be displayed on the tire, in the open and labelled as such. JMHO. They have expiration dates for propane cylinders made of steel and yet people are amazed that rubber and fabric tyres have a finite life expectacy in years. Yet many people that would not buy and 5 year old fan belt for their drill press or lawn mower will ride on ancient tires. A clearly stamped expiration date and last day for sale would take all the flimflam out of it. Even regroovable tires should have an expiration date on the casing as there is no real sense in regrooving a casing with only a few months safe use left in it. The problem is that many in the sales end of the new and used tire business do not want people to know this information or to be held to public scrutiney for their practices. |
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by: spandi - Sept 20, 2013 13:19:09 GMT -5
Post by spandi on Sept 20, 2013 13:19:09 GMT -5
It's best to get your tires like Pillsbury Doughboy cookies. Fresh from the oven. ;D
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by: bobshaw - Sept 20, 2013 14:30:05 GMT -5
Post by bobshaw on Sept 20, 2013 14:30:05 GMT -5
It's best to get your tires like Pillsbury Doughboy cookies. Fresh from the oven. ;D Amen! |
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by: gregw - Sept 20, 2013 15:59:55 GMT -5
Post by gregw on Sept 20, 2013 15:59:55 GMT -5
I want my tires so new they're still warm from Vulcanizing.  Right! They mount easier when they're freshly vulcanized, and lord knows what may happen if the tire reaches 20 degrees, and warms up again while laying on a warehouse shelf... Drop the tire too hard and it may shatter! I climatize my rubber, never gets below 60 or above 100 degrees. ;-) |
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by: scooter12 - Sept 20, 2013 21:34:00 GMT -5
Post by scooter12 on Sept 20, 2013 21:34:00 GMT -5
I can find plenty of tire articles that say," Don't buy 5 year old tires". I bought 2 more tires from the Motorcycle Superstore. A 9 month old tire is not bad. A 4 year old tire is, if you don't ride often. A 2009 tire is crap and one risks danger of tire failure. A new tire should be less then 1 year old. Got free shipping on these tires, verses paying $29 + $20 shipping.. Attachments:
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by: Jarlaxle - Sept 21, 2013 13:03:05 GMT -5
Post by Jarlaxle on Sept 21, 2013 13:03:05 GMT -5
Tires rot faster in hot humid semi-tropical climates. Tires that were passable in Maine will blow out on the 115 degree humid roadways in Florida. Old tires can look good in xrays however the cord can still be weak and prone to failure. The other issue is how close the tire was stored to electrical fields such as from a main panel feed or large shop air compressor due to the decay caused by the ozone generated/attracted. Note internal inspection requires more than just looking. You have to manipulate the tire to feel for irregularities and such. Remounting the potentially fragile old tire can of itself be the catalyst that causes the failure. Also note that the people most opposed to the age limits on tires have a vested interest in this and are recappers/regroovers along with those that sell used tires. They scream the loudest against regulation but want to be exempted from liability when an out of date tire that they sell fails and causes a loss. No, I'm just opposed to more Big Brother idiocy! It really is that simple! I did 200+ miles today in my Caddy, on 10+ year old tires. They have ~15,000 miles on them and still look new. (They were never mounted and were stored inside until last year.) I wish I could still get V-rated tires in this size...I think I might have the last two sets in the country.  If you're so damned paranoid, then replace your tires every year, I don't care. But stop using YOUR paranoia to run MY life! |
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by: Jarlaxle - Sept 21, 2013 13:07:39 GMT -5
Post by Jarlaxle on Sept 21, 2013 13:07:39 GMT -5
I think the manufacturing date should be plainly displayed on the tire, not buried in a code, that most people don't know exists. If the expiration date was an agreed upon date, that should also be displayed on the tire, in the open and labelled as such. JMHO. They have expiration dates for propane cylinders made of steel and yet people are amazed that rubber and fabric tyres have a finite life expectacy in years. Yet many people that would not buy and 5 year old fan belt for their drill press or lawn mower will ride on ancient tires. A clearly stamped expiration date and last day for sale would take all the flimflam out of it. Even regroovable tires should have an expiration date on the casing as there is no real sense in regrooving a casing with only a few months safe use left in it. The problem is that many in the sales end of the new and used tire business do not want people to know this information or to be held to public scrutiny for their practices. God and goddess, are you making things up for the "fun" of it?! No, there is no "expiration date" on a propane tank! There is a date after whichg the certification has expired and it must be reinspected! After that is done, it is good for another ten (eight?) years! Also note: one tank on my uncle's torch is date-stamped 1947! The last argon tank he had for his MIG welder was produced (for the Navy) in the 20's. There are many gas cylinders in use that are close to 100 years old. And yes, I WOULD buy a 5-year-old fan belt. |
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