just test rode a Reflex...  By  ltdhpp (Read 2,337 times)

The "Crate Clones" come in either the 257cc Yamaha/Linhai style horizontal engine or the 244cc Honda clone vertical, so there are a ton of aftermarket goodies you can get.

JR - how much are those crate clones to your door? Are there many aftermarket goodies for them? Because that's where any money saved on this Reflex would go, lol. One thing I hate is the whisper quiet exhaust...

Like anything it depends on what you want? The Reflex clones come with two engines the linhai 257cc horizontal clone and the 244cc helix vertical clone engine.

Both engines solid and reliable, the helix clone the oldest version and parts are everywhere for the engine, one in many cases if they want to pay the price can use OEM Honda parts.

The linhai version is the newest version and parts are a lot more available than when it came out around 06. I run the linhais and people that know me know I favor that engine.

When you say after market parts I'm presuming you're talking about modding it? One can buy a BBK for both engines, just like the GY-6 gains are minimal. CVT upgrades CDI, etc available for both engines, the helix clone will be easier to find.

Other than the engines the scooters are identical part for part and again they are a perfect look alike clone of the Honda Reflex. Again the Reflex has a impeccable track record, why Honda stopped making it who knows? About the only flaw in the scooter which can be worked with, I have known them to want to run a little hot in very hot weather when you really put them on the grinder so to speak.

I had a friend that was born and raised in Arkansas come visit me just a couple of months ago that is retired. He is on my forum and his 250 with the vertical engine had the starter lock in place and he messed the engine up unknowingly. He is a retired RV traveler and was on the west coast. He took the scooter to a Honda dealer and they wouldn't work on it. He purchased a used Reflex from them with 12k on it and rode the scooter all the way back to Arkansas over 1000 miles to NW Arkansas. He came to visit me one day where I live in Central Arkansas and rode to Reflex. The 250 clone scooter he had is now Dougs and he is rebuilding the engine and it'll be in good shape again.

As I said I bought all my scooters online first ones in 08 a Bali 150 and my 250B. My wife liked my 250 so a year later I bought a 07 250A and she rides that now.

In 08 gas went way over $4 a gallon so I bought the first two for gas savings and fun. Bought both from a dealer that was a crook and I didn't know it. A year later they were out of business, good thing for me is I bought two good scooters.

The market was flooded with scooters in 07 and 08 due to the gas thing and sales dipped and dealers were left with a lot of scooters in the crates that in some cases didn't sell for years later. As late as 2011 Killer was selling 07 250A's new out of the warehouse and they dipped the price down to as low as $1200, other dealers did the same. I don't know if any of these are still out there? If so one might could still get a real deal?

If I found one and needed it I would totally strip it replace everything including tires and valve stems and ride it, I wouldn't be afraid of it.

Here is the latest deal on a 250B from Killer:

www.killermotorsports.com/250cc_Cruiser_Gas_Scooter_w_Trunk_Alarm_p/r-mc-54-250.htm

Now like any dealer some people say great dealer others may not say that. Myself Killer has always treated me right. Never had an issue. My last purchase was a go kart this past Christmas and the warehouse sent the wrong model go kart, they quickly sent papers to ship it back and had the correct one sent to me in a week, and all was well.

Here's the deal, buy online expect to be a mechanic. Do a PDI no matter what, resist the urge to just gas it up and ride. Want to just ride go buy from a B&M dealer and just like online hope you get a good dealer.

JR

nice ride enjoy and be safe