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Post by Jarlaxle on May 24, 2013 12:01:40 GMT -5
Anyone riding with no helmet should be required to have at leadt a $500,000 medical policy before doing so. Anyone without said policy should, if suffering a head injury, be left to bleed out. You want to ride stupid, go for it...but pay your own medical bills!
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Post by spandi on May 24, 2013 12:06:55 GMT -5
If someday someone invents a forcefield for your head I'll give up my helmet, until then the "bucket" goes on before the key is turned.
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Post by dragonsparks on May 24, 2013 12:46:41 GMT -5
O-boy some people get so testy about people Exercising there civil liberties...Like what one person dose in Fla. on vacation  is going to affect them in new York,Maine,Ohio,....etc.. Having said that,IMHO. I have always had a problem with government  thinking they are a better parent. From seat belts to helmets, they come up with some laws that protect me from myself. I don't think that's what government is for. Of course,  it's all about $afety. These click-it-or-ticket campaigns are merely a ruse to create an otherwise illegal roadblock, which then gives them license to stop any driver and check their papers. And Most of America Just Drink the Kool-Aid. Dave |
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Post by Jarlaxle on May 24, 2013 17:11:03 GMT -5
It does...since I pay TAXES to support the irresponsible!
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Post by dragonsparks on May 24, 2013 17:57:17 GMT -5
It does...since I pay TAXES to support the irresponsible! Really What Have YOU Been Smoking??? PLEASE Share with the class. Kool-Aid OHHH YAAA  OMG Help I C-A-N-'T B-R-E-A-T-H!!!! Public schools don't You love it??? #smiley4140# In fla. I don't think so. Please Show Your Math so the rest of class can follow.  |
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Post by dragonsparks on May 24, 2013 18:11:04 GMT -5
It does...since I pay TAXES to support the irresponsible! Really What Have YOU Been Smoking??? PLEASE Share with the class. Kool-Aid OHHH YAAA OMG Help I C-A-N-'T B-R-E-A-T-H!!!! Public schools don't You love it???  In Fla. I don't think so. Please Show Your Math so the rest of class can follow. What if the same Guy gets attacked by a shark while  Do your taxes pay for to? Kind of absurd Don't you think??? Dave |
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Post by jeffery5568 on May 24, 2013 19:02:30 GMT -5
Like I said before I wrecked and went to the hospital I did not have health ins at the time so you know what I did when I left the hospital..... I wrote them a $1300 check for there services. That seems responsible to me.
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Post by Jarlaxle on May 24, 2013 19:36:17 GMT -5
It does...since I pay TAXES to support the irresponsible! Really What Have YOU Been Smoking??? PLEASE Share with the class. Kool-Aid OHHH YAAA OMG Help I C-A-N-'T B-R-E-A-T-H!!!! Public schools don't You love it??? In Fla. I don't think so. Please Show Your Math so the rest of class can follow. What if the same Guy gets attacked by a shark while Do your taxes pay for to? Kind of absurd Don't you think??? Dave A wall of stupid gifs doesn't make your post accurate, only infantile and annoying. When someone ends up needing $500,000 worth of medical care he cannot pay for, guess who pays? That's right: the taxpayers! State and Federal, tax dollars pay for it! Irresponsible people should be left to bleed out in the gutter. |
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Post by rockynv on May 24, 2013 19:52:21 GMT -5
Yep it is the honest Joe's that work and pay taxes along with medical bills that offsett the cost of scraping up whats left of uninsured free spirits off the road and paying for everything from the ambulance/fire crew, roadway cleanup, police presence and even the burials. Unlike some foriegn countries hospitals in the USA have to treat emergencies even if ability to pay can not be established. We all pay in the end for these me-first bums who only care for their own desires and moments pleasure with total disregard for others. Most times no matter what you are doing there is some ripple effect that impacts other people either in a positive or negative manner.
You would be surpised how many free spirits here in Florida don't realise that niether their Motorcycle PIP or General Health Policy cover riding without a helmet or some minimum amount of safety gear such as DOT helmet, motorcycle jacket, long pants, over the ankle boots and motorcycle gloves. When they wreck they are in effect putting their hand in my wallet to pay for it.
$1,300 is not realistic amount today for emergency room treatment after a motorcycle wreck, you will more likely need to add at least another zero and multiply that amount anywhere from 2 to 5 times.
A friend got bumped off his bike in a low speed incident and it was a full month in intensive care, half of that in an induced coma. He did not get run over or directly hit either. He only had a 3/4 helmet, short sleeves, long pants and sneakers. He then spent a few more months in the hospital and then 6 more in hospice and now after several months at home is barely walking again. He was lucky as the other parties insurance covered him since they were at-fault otherwise it was well over a $100,000 bill that someone would have had to pay.
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Post by dragonsparks on May 24, 2013 20:35:04 GMT -5
Yep it is the honest Joe's that work and pay taxes along with medical bills that offsett the cost of scraping up whats left of uninsured free spirits off the road and paying for everything from the ambulance/fire crew, roadway cleanup, police presence and even the burials. Unlike some foriegn countries hospitals in the USA have to treat emergencies even if ability to pay can not be established. We all pay in the end for these me-first bums who only care for their own desires and moments pleasure with total disregard for others. Most times no matter what you are doing there is some ripple effect that impacts other people either in a positive or negative manner. You would be surpised how many free spirits here in Florida don't realise that niether their Motorcycle PIP or General Health Policy cover riding without a helmet or some minimum amount of safety gear such as DOT helmet, motorcycle jacket, long pants, over the ankle boots and motorcycle gloves. When they wreck they are in effect putting their hand in my wallet to pay for it. $1,300 is not realistic amount today for emergency room treatment after a motorcycle wreck, you will more likely need to add at least another zero and multiply that amount anywhere from 2 to 5 times. A friend got bumped off his bike in a low speed incident and it was a full month in intensive care, half of that in an induced coma. He did not get run over or directly hit either. He only had a 3/4 helmet, short sleeves, long pants and sneakers. He then spent a few more months in the hospital and then 6 more in hospice and now after several months at home is barely walking again. He was lucky as the other parties insurance covered him since they were at-fault otherwise it was well over a $100,000 bill that someone would have had to pay. I can see your point cause you live in the state were talking about But like I asked Jarlaxle please show me the Math on how you pay for what happens in Fla. when you live at least 1000 miles away...as fore your last statement & I Quoit Irresponsible people should be left to bleed out in the gutter. Read more: itistheride.boards.net/index.cgi?board=gsd&action=post&thread=2038"e=21564&page=3#ixzz2UGOYxvkQAll I can do is pray for you. While I shake my head in disgust. then pray about my short Cummings. I'm honest about mine Truly Dave |
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Post by Jarlaxle on May 25, 2013 7:03:23 GMT -5
Yep it is the honest Joe's that work and pay taxes along with medical bills that offsett the cost of scraping up whats left of uninsured free spirits off the road and paying for everything from the ambulance/fire crew, roadway cleanup, police presence and even the burials. Unlike some foriegn countries hospitals in the USA have to treat emergencies even if ability to pay can not be established. We all pay in the end for these me-first bums who only care for their own desires and moments pleasure with total disregard for others. Most times no matter what you are doing there is some ripple effect that impacts other people either in a positive or negative manner. You would be surpised how many free spirits here in Florida don't realise that niether their Motorcycle PIP or General Health Policy cover riding without a helmet or some minimum amount of safety gear such as DOT helmet, motorcycle jacket, long pants, over the ankle boots and motorcycle gloves. When they wreck they are in effect putting their hand in my wallet to pay for it. $1,300 is not realistic amount today for emergency room treatment after a motorcycle wreck, you will more likely need to add at least another zero and multiply that amount anywhere from 2 to 5 times. A friend got bumped off his bike in a low speed incident and it was a full month in intensive care, half of that in an induced coma. He did not get run over or directly hit either. He only had a 3/4 helmet, short sleeves, long pants and sneakers. He then spent a few more months in the hospital and then 6 more in hospice and now after several months at home is barely walking again. He was lucky as the other parties insurance covered him since they were at-fault otherwise it was well over a $100,000 bill that someone would have had to pay. I can see your point cause you live in the state were talking about But like I asked Jarlaxle please show me the Math on how you pay for what happens in Fla. when you live at least 1000 miles away...as fore your last statement & I Quoit Irresponsible people should be left to bleed out in the gutter. Not sure I have EVER seen a hospital that didn't get federal money...which means yes, I pay! So am I: I am the first to say that I am sick and tired of paying for irresponsible idiots. Irresponsibility should have consequences. Stupidity should be painful. Let them bleed out in the gutter. |
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Post by rockynv on May 25, 2013 8:25:19 GMT -5
I can see your point cause you live in the state were talking about But like I asked Jarlaxle please show me the Math on how you pay for what happens in Fla. when you live at least 1000 miles away...as fore your last statement & I Quoit Irresponsible people should be left to bleed out in the gutter. Read more: itistheride.boards.net/index.cgi?board=gsd&action=post&thread=2038"e=21564&page=3#ixzz2UGOYxvkQAll I can do is pray for you. While I shake my head in disgust. then pray about my short Cummings. I'm honest about mine Truly Dave Dave - You are quoting someone else about the bleeding out. We pay because insurance companies will then petition the insurance commisioner to allow them to raise their rates due to the high payouts. We don't need to waste time on researching this as by now everyone knows how this goes since we have all heard and groaned about the hearings when they are published and then are personally impacted when the rates go up up up. We also pay through our Federal, State and Local taxes as hospitals, police and emergency services all have to dip into all the various tax pools to pay for dealing with this and then tax rates have to be increased to make the payments of these extra costs for what is now considered engaging in extreme risks such as riding without proper gear. If you were living out alone on a deserted island where there were no other people or infrastructures that would have to deal with the aftermath of your actions then yes it would have little impact to no on me however you do live in a society with infrustructure where we all end up paying the high cost of other peoples actions. |
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Post by scootnwinn on May 25, 2013 8:52:54 GMT -5
No helmet riders also increase/solidify people's perception that riding is dangerous. I would like to see statistical data for fatalities on riders properly geared. All of the statistics include helmet less riders and they account for nearly all the fatalities. Not all but most. So not only do you affect insurance rates and taxes you affect how people view other riders. The impact is huge I am not in favor of laws that require helmets I am in favor if people growing a brain and doing the right thing because its smart and responsible.
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Post by dragonsparks on May 25, 2013 9:32:17 GMT -5
Sure They all do with string's attached. The #1 string is Medicaid & medicare patients must receive care. Oh federal money also fund's, Fast & furious, shrimp tread mill(OMG I love that one),public schools(Were after 12yr.s Johnny still can't Read) & Planned Parenthood(Which has yet to help anyone Plan to be Aparent) just to name a few... And your up set about anyone exercising legal rights. How sad.  Also if we go with your sunny out look of and I Quote I am the first to say that I am sick and tired of paying for irresponsible idiots. Irresponsibility should have consequences. Stupidity should be painful. Let them bleed out in the gutter. Just about everyone would be Dead, Probably You to.  A friend Steve puts DNR on the palm of his hand although suits up like a gladiator every time. He told me it made wifey feel better about him riding. I wonder which one he meant?  So rage on Jarlaxle.  That's your right. God bless & Happy trails To Ya Dave
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Post by scootnwinn on May 25, 2013 9:52:33 GMT -5
That's not even coherent... What are you saying? Your ramblings are not swaying anyone to your side as they are barely even readable makes the while grow a brain statement seem a bit more apt. You are defending a undefendable act of stupidity and I'm not sure why.
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