Post by greens on Aug 11, 2013 20:26:00 GMT -5
Alright so when i bought my scoot the guy claimed it had a bad battery and that was all i needed because he didn't have one.
Well i got a new battery stuck it in and while it did work the first use, started, blinkers, etc. it didn't work after that.
Well i noticed the fuse was blown. Replaced it, and noticed that the lights were on even though the scoot was completely off and the key removed.
Try to use starter; Fuse blown.
Time to bust out the multimeter.
Red on positive black on frame and sure enough, i get a reading.
I think they call that a Dead Short?
The scooter hasn't been touched by anyone other than me, the wiring is all factory, and in good shape so i don't believe it's any of the wires.
Easy enough to trouble shoot i guess, so i prop up the multimeter and start disconnecting devices to see if my reading goes back to 1.00000
Up front by the headlight is a small device which looks like a heatsink that has a socket of 4 wires. The manual states this is a Rectifier/Regulator.
Unplug it and the multimeter instantly goes back to the 1.00.. reading! Nice!
Within the R/R itself, idk if this matters, but the 4th and 3rd slots pass continuity with flying colors, they are connected like a wire.
If i disconnect the R/R EVERYTHING works. The headlights turn off with the scoot, the starter can start without blowing the fuse, blinkers function, everything.
(except, and i'm guessing, my ability to charge my battery while running, and my ability to provide anything other than 12 volt power?)
SO again
Scooter completely off, with R/R connected, the lights stay on, the fuse gets too hot to touch, and the positive lead has continuity with the frame. Press starter and the fuse melts.
If i disconnect the R/R the fuse is no longer hot, at all. And everything appears to work great!
Therefore i have a bad R/R and need to get another one?
I believe the battery wasn't bad, rather destroyed, as it was just permashorting out until the fuse blew, and if you never tried to start it the fuse never blew, and the poor battery just sat there shorted out. (i'm pretty sure i ruined my replacement battery too, but the autoshop exchanged it, since then i of course do not leave the R/R conneted)
The big question for me is, does this make sense? Would an R/R go bad, and would it cause these symptoms? Could something the PO done simply shorted out the R/R?
Can i run the bike without the R/R? If i plug the RR in lights stay on and fuse and battery start to heat up, can't be healthy. Without the RR everything works great.
Where can i find a new R/R? Seem pretty generic, i could just make one fit?
Well i got a new battery stuck it in and while it did work the first use, started, blinkers, etc. it didn't work after that.
Well i noticed the fuse was blown. Replaced it, and noticed that the lights were on even though the scoot was completely off and the key removed.
Try to use starter; Fuse blown.
Time to bust out the multimeter.
Red on positive black on frame and sure enough, i get a reading.
I think they call that a Dead Short?
The scooter hasn't been touched by anyone other than me, the wiring is all factory, and in good shape so i don't believe it's any of the wires.
Easy enough to trouble shoot i guess, so i prop up the multimeter and start disconnecting devices to see if my reading goes back to 1.00000
Up front by the headlight is a small device which looks like a heatsink that has a socket of 4 wires. The manual states this is a Rectifier/Regulator.
Unplug it and the multimeter instantly goes back to the 1.00.. reading! Nice!
Within the R/R itself, idk if this matters, but the 4th and 3rd slots pass continuity with flying colors, they are connected like a wire.
If i disconnect the R/R EVERYTHING works. The headlights turn off with the scoot, the starter can start without blowing the fuse, blinkers function, everything.
(except, and i'm guessing, my ability to charge my battery while running, and my ability to provide anything other than 12 volt power?)
SO again
Scooter completely off, with R/R connected, the lights stay on, the fuse gets too hot to touch, and the positive lead has continuity with the frame. Press starter and the fuse melts.
If i disconnect the R/R the fuse is no longer hot, at all. And everything appears to work great!
Therefore i have a bad R/R and need to get another one?
I believe the battery wasn't bad, rather destroyed, as it was just permashorting out until the fuse blew, and if you never tried to start it the fuse never blew, and the poor battery just sat there shorted out. (i'm pretty sure i ruined my replacement battery too, but the autoshop exchanged it, since then i of course do not leave the R/R conneted)
The big question for me is, does this make sense? Would an R/R go bad, and would it cause these symptoms? Could something the PO done simply shorted out the R/R?
Can i run the bike without the R/R? If i plug the RR in lights stay on and fuse and battery start to heat up, can't be healthy. Without the RR everything works great.
Where can i find a new R/R? Seem pretty generic, i could just make one fit?
jet